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Charter Arms 22
buckeyedave
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Hello
The Browns won last night! Maybe this year they will play a whopping 500 ball!
My question is regarding shooting a Charter Arms 22 magnum. Is it ok to shoot 22LR in it?
Thanks, Dave
The Browns won last night! Maybe this year they will play a whopping 500 ball!
My question is regarding shooting a Charter Arms 22 magnum. Is it ok to shoot 22LR in it?
Thanks, Dave
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EvilDr235
If I wanted to carry the 22 LR for protection it isn't there a round that has a better kick than a standard round?
Dave
Thanks. I haven't bought it yet. I thought maybe it was like a 357 where your could shoot 38's in it too. Maybe I will just buy a 22LR for some fun shooting plus my wife will shoot it too.
If I wanted to carry the 22 LR for protection it isn't there a round that has a better kick than a standard round?
Dave
NO. Unless you count the .22 mag. But for .22LR, your best handgun defense round is the standard High (not hyper) velocity solid bullet.
.22 Hp's tend to begin to fragment before achieveing desired penetration. For overall .22 Mag SP is best.
Thanks. I haven't bought it yet. I thought maybe it was like a 357 where your could shoot 38's in it too. Maybe I will just buy a 22LR for some fun shooting plus my wife will shoot it too.
If I wanted to carry the 22 LR for protection it isn't there a round that has a better kick than a standard round?
Dave
.22's aren't recommended as personal protection handguns. That said, lots of folks have been sent on a one way trip to boot hill by .22's over the years. CCI "Stingers" supposedly are the best medicine for two legged varmints, if all you got is a .22.
quote:Originally posted by buckeyedave
Thanks. I haven't bought it yet. I thought maybe it was like a 357 where your could shoot 38's in it too. Maybe I will just buy a 22LR for some fun shooting plus my wife will shoot it too.
If I wanted to carry the 22 LR for protection it isn't there a round that has a better kick than a standard round?
Dave
.22's aren't recommended as personal protection handguns. That said, lots of folks have been sent on a one way trip to boot hill by .22's over the years. CCI "Stingers" supposedly are the best medicine for two legged varmints, if all you got is a .22.
Disagree. The abbreviated weight hollow points on Stingers are great for small game. But tend to fragment on impact before achieving desired penetration into larger game and humans. Especially on hman who are fat, heavily muscled, or wearing heavy clothing.
And penetration is EVERYTHING when using a .22 for SD. What helps the .22sp be a deadly (as possible) SD round, is that it has velocity to enter the body. But largely expends that energy in doing so. Then lacking the energy to exit, it tends to riccochet around INSIDE the body to cause multiple vital organ wounds. But it's got to get INSIDE to do the damage.
Getting back to the Charter Arms Question - CA made revolvers chambered for the .22lr/l/s or the .22 WMRF - they, to my knowledge, never made a model with interchageable cylinders. As already expressed - shooting a .22lr in a .22 mag chamber is foolhardy - the mag chamber is several thousandths larger in diameter.
Charter currently offers 62240 Target Pathfinder Combo with TWO cylinders:
http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Pathfinder_combo_62240.html
Apparently, Charter was thinking of doing this for awhile. A guy on another forum was having some trouble with his .22LR version, so, Charter gave him a NEW gun ( in exchange for the "bad" one), along with the "pre-release" Magnum cylinder. Now, it is a standard item.
My question is regarding shooting a Charter Arms 22 magnum. Is it ok to shoot 22LR in it?
While people sometimes do it, its really not safe to fire .22LR rounds from a magnum gun. The .22LR cases are smaller, and they will split on firing from a magnum chamber. Barring a life or death emergency, I wouldn't try it.
The only way this could be safe would be if the gun in question were a revolver with an interchangable .22LR cylinder.
As to the secondary debate on which .22 rounds make the best self-defense rounds, that's easy. . .they're all TERRIBLE.
Without rehashing what's already been written I agree that:
a. CCI stingers are actually a POOR choice for self-defense, as the combination of a slow-burning powder and light bullet used to get high velocity from a RIFLE, yields extremely poor terminal ballistics form a PISTOL. Good for groundhogs. . .bad for people.
b. High-velocity solid rounds probably are the best choice for a .22 as they ought to yield the best penetration, and that goes for .22LR or .22magnum.
c. .22 LR bullets *DO NOT* "ricochet around" inside the human torso. That's physiologically and ballistically implausible. Lead bullets aren't superballs, human tissue is soft, and .22s just don't carry much energy to begin with. Again, if a bullet doesn't have enough energy to exit the torso, then how is it going to have enough to cause multiple wound channels by bouncing around?
Its possible for one .22 (or any other bullet for that matter) to make multiple wound channels as it fragments hitting bone, but that's somewhat of a different thing.
I suppose it depends on angle etc.
There's your first problem....