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Blair and Sutherlands flintlock "Baker Pattern"?

edalicesedalices Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
edited December 2013 in Ask the Experts
I wonder if anybody can give me a bit information on its value. Thanks

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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Couldn't find anything on Blair & Sutherlands in my references. Does it have any other markings, such as Proof Marks?

    Condition is obviously lacking. No hammer, sling swivels missing, barrel retaining escutcheon and wedge missing, stock broken in front etc.

    Unless Blair & Sutherlands firearms are sought after by collectors? Doesn't seem to be a valuable rifle to me, considering condition it's in.
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  • edalicesedalices Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the reply. There isn't any other marking except the maker "Blair & Sutherlands". The below link mentioned a "BAKER PATTERN VOLUNTEER RIFLE" made by the same maker. http://www.christies.com/lotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=842907
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One of our moderators who uses the handle of "Spider7115", is very knowledgeable regarding antique guns. Get his e-mail from our membership list. Send him a e-mail with your photos. If he can't help? He has contacts with collectors in England, through another antique collectors site. They might be more knowledgeable, regarding history and value.
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  • edalicesedalices Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you very much. I will send him the link.
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  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It looks to be an "Officer's Fusil", which was a lighter, smaller musket than the standard-issue "Brown Bess". These were manufactured in the mid to late 18th and early 19th centuries by numerous upscale makers such as Barber, Twigg, Griffin and countless others for well-to-do British officers.

    I suggest you post this on AntiqueGuns.com in the "pre-1899" category with links to your pictures. Bill Curtis, author and former Royal Armorer, is a regular contributor and an undisputed expert on British arms.
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  • edalicesedalices Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you very much. That is excellent!
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That has to be Proprietary design on the trigger guard
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    That has to be Proprietary design on the trigger guard



    When the brits standardized and adopted rifles, during the Napoleonic wars from the late 1790's on. They copied the German Jager rifles. The scrolled metal trigger guard/pistol grip was one of the standard features on the Jager rifles.
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