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Sauer 38 H DOM

cornbeancornbean Member Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
edited January 2014 in Ask the Experts
I have a 38H serial number 448175 on the right side frame behind grip. Eagle over N below it. Does anyone know date of manufacture. Late war I'm assuming. The only address on the left slide is CAL 7.65, under the grips are IA inside of a circle. Eagle over 37 on left side in front of trigger on upper trigger gaurd. Eagle over N on right side above serrations. Also on right side of barrel. Thanks Mark
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your's isn't all that late production wise. Serial numbers go on up to the low 500,000's, at the end. Circa 5/45.

    There are presentation 38 H's known, with higher serial numbers than yours.

    My WAG yours was made no later than the middle of 44. Quite possibly in 43, seeing it's over 50,00 SN's lower than the 5/45 guns.
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have461822 with exact Same markings in every respect except no barrel markings at least with slide closed. is your trigger Blued or does it look like Cast grey metal
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  • cornbeancornbean Member Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My trigger looks grey. The barrel marking should be on right side toward front. Can be seen when you hold the slide back.
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  • 1BigGuy1BigGuy Member Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sauer 38(H) pistols procured by the Heereswaffenamt were all marked with the military acceptance stamp, "eagle over 37," and often with the commercial test proof mark, "eagle over N." Those issued to the police carry either "eagle C" or "eagle F" acceptance stamps.

    It sounds like you have a Type Four 38-H (with one Eagle 37 Waffenamt and a zinc trigger). If it is missing the thumb safety, than you have a Model 38. Either would be, as you surmised, later war production models.

    Unless I'm wrong, which is possible.
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  • yonsonyonson Member Posts: 954 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mine is #500075 which presumably is late war production, judging also by lesser finish, no thumb safety, zinc trigger, and acceptance stamp (left side of trigger guard) done in haste showing only the upper part of eagle & nothing else. Eagle over N on right side of frame & slide. Eagle over (something) on barrel. Is this a model 38 (no H)?
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by yonson
    Mine is #500075 which presumably is late war production, judging also by lesser finish, no thumb safety, zinc trigger, and acceptance stamp (left side of trigger guard) done in haste showing only the upper part of eagle & nothing else. Eagle over N on right side of frame & slide. Eagle over (something) on barrel. Is this a model 38 (no H)?



    According to my reference. The Sauer pistols without the thumb safety, ("Hammer Safety"), denoted with the hyphenated "H" . Are just plain Model 38's. There are two different series of these pistols. Very early and very late production. Although your serial number is over 500,000. Thousands of additional pistols were produced. Serial numbers well over 506,000 are known.
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  • yonsonyonson Member Posts: 954 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks, rufe.
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  • cornbeancornbean Member Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My 38H serial number 448175 has the thumb safety which I failed to mention in my initial post and zinc trigger. Thanks Mark
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