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Post War 6 digit serial number

celsecelse Member Posts: 344 ✭✭✭
edited January 2014 in Ask the Experts

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  • celsecelse Member Posts: 344 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sir I think what you have is a SPRINGFIELD ARMORY Frame made BRAZIL
    This is a civilian company that has no connection with the military ARMORY that made fire-arms for the us government except the name. We need close up of all markings on the frame both sides. Does the trigger guard have the VP proof.
    EDIT The rear sight does not look right My pistol has Elliason rear sight and COLT IMHO discontinued Marking the slide with part of the serial Number Before your pistol was made.does the trigger guard have the VP proof if not then this is a CLONE FRAME of some kind

    EDIT II Ok I apologize about the 3 digits on the slide matching I never take the sight off or apart on any of my Gold Cup Pistols . I was thinking about how Colt marked many Military and Civilian pistols under the Firing pin retainer. . None of my rear sights look like the one pictured all of mine are ELLIASON If your frame has the VP then it is most likely a colt. Still to be verified
    by Colt. also the serial number is still to be verified by colt. I am not Trying to discredit your pistol or you it is just the fact of this pistol does not conform with any research information that has been published.I to have a pistol that does not conform but I have reason to believe it is a SO Called lunch box gun with parts from 1918-1920 It does not have or ever had a serial number. I have a letter from BATF stating it is OK for me to own this pistol and or sell it. Please keep us informed with what colt has to say after they inspect your pistol Might add a new chapter into Colt 1911 research.
  • celsecelse Member Posts: 344 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Springfield Armory NM is a prefix not sufix. Any ways the last 3 digits of the frame's serial number(see slide)( you might have to cut and past the photo as to be able to enlarge enough to see) is stamped underneath the rear sight just as Colt did with all(pre 70)the Post War National Match.
  • celsecelse Member Posts: 344 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,554 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have colt # 8780-NM 1962
  • celsecelse Member Posts: 344 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Springfield Armory's front strap is not cut on a raidous like Colt and others. Colt used the Accro sights till around 1964 then the Elliason sight was standard. All 14 of my Post War National match have the last three digits of the serial number underneath the rear sight. This includes my .38 Midrange National Match pistols. The Pre 70 NM were assembled to closer tolerances than the Series 70 Gold Cup. Therefore they had to keep the slide and frame together. I believe Colt found the last 3 digits to be enough because they would have to blue over 100 pistols at a time to cause any problem with a mix up. But that is only conjecture. I relise this fact has never been published, but I allways totaly disasemble and clean all my Colt before they are added to mt colection. If you work the slide on a pre 70 Gold Cup one will notice the action feals smooth. They were hand honed. The VP stamping is slightly burnished as it should be as the struck it after it was blued, as wes Colts practise. The frame also has the assemblers mark on the right side of the guard. The feed ramp on the frame is in the white as is the extractor nose. The thumb saftey and grip saftey are cut to the frame after blueing so the fitted areas are in the white as well.
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