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Gun Store Sells Stolen Gun

Toned1Toned1 Member Posts: 92 ✭✭
edited January 2014 in Ask the Experts
I bought a old very rare colt SAA from my major gun dealer and when I took it to the cops to register it they said it was stolen 20 years ago and confiscated the gun. The gun store told me they had no way of knowing this in advance. Is this possible for an major FFL dealer not to know this?
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  • HerschelHerschel Member Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How would the major gun dealer know? Pawn shops in my state report all bought and pawned used merchandise to the local police who supposedly run NCIC checks on it. I don't know if that requirement is a nationwide practice. At least you should get your money back from the dealer.
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If they bought it from a private party. And didn't run the Colts S.N. through the NCIC. There is no way they would have known, that it was stolen.

    The running of guns through the NCIC, is a local requirement. When I lived in Phoenix years ago. I was told by one of the local gun dealers. That every used gun they handle, has to be run by the Phoenix PD.




    EDIT #1,

    If the dealer who sold you the Colt. Was required by local regulations/law? To have had the police run it through NCIC, prior to resale. And didn't, they might be in a whole world of dodo. Including a civil law suit from you. I would get in touch with a local attorney rergarding this matter. If it isn't resolved to your satisfaction.
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  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The DEALER has no direct access to the NCIC system. It is restricted to law enforcement. SOME localities require that all pawned merchandise or used guns be reported to local PD, who runs them, but the dealer has no way to do it directly.
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The fellas are correct; in most states, there is no way for a buyer, either individual or FFL, to know that a gun is stolen.

    The way this works is: You should have gotten a hand receipt from the PD listing the gun confiscated from you. You then take the hand receipt to the dealer who sold you the gun, & he gives you your money back. This continues until.....someone can't locate or prove who he got the gun from, & that person gets stuck with the loss.

    All of this reinforces why you should always record the drivers license information of anyone from whom you buy a gun.

    Neal
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  • allamericangunshopallamericangunshop Member Posts: 727 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wrong Answer !!!

    Here in Tn , Dealers Do have access to NCIC ( here its TN TBI ) and the option to 'run any and all guns' ( at NO COSTS !)!
    and :
    My understanding is that here in Tn , Pawn Shops are required to run firearms when they are aquired from a customer ? I will ask my buddy who owns a Pawn Shop to clarify on this .....

    Also check BATF reg.s , My understanding is that all states are required to make available ( to dealers ) the option to check an item ?

    Thanks !!!
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    P.S. You took it to the cops to register it ??? WTH ???
    You seriously need to move to a Gun Friendly ( Like I did , TN !) State !!!!!!!












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  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where I'm at all retailers who deal in used guns run the serial # before the buy or put them on consignment.
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  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Happened to me some years ago although not a major gun dealer like Cabelas, Gander etc he was big enough. Sold me a used police 870, gun wasn't even reported stolen until I had had it for 3 days. The dealer did end up giving me my money back.
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    The dealer owes you money. He will have to collect from the guy he bought it from.

    BTDT, and I got my money.
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  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,171 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "when I took it to the cops to register"


    that, right there, is your main problem
    I had the Sheriff's office check a couple of guns I took in on trade from a guy who made me a little suspicious but those were the only 2 out of many I traded for and resold while I was in the gunshop.
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