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armor piercing ammo
RugerNiner
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I suspect I may be exhuming an often-rehashed topic, so if that's the case, please feel free to say so. [B)]
What confuses me is the exact definition of "armor piercing" as outlined here:
http://www.firearmslawcenter.org/content/Federallawsummary.asp#ammunitionregulation
As opposed to the description of the "steel core" ammo here:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=112088624
The auction item is described as "armor piercing". But the definitions on the web page above don't seem to clearly define steel core ammo as necessarily armor-piercing.
Quotes:
"designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor"
"any projectile or projectile core that may be used in a handgun and that is constructed entirely from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium"
"defined as a full jacketed projectile 'larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.'"
My questions are these:
Is a rifle definable as a handgun? Surely they also mean to include rifles in the definition? Perhaps the writer of that page omitted a bit of crucial language?
Is the steel core in the Chinese ammo that's on offer "designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor"? Has a steel core no other function?
And, if the ammo on offer IS firmly definable as "armor piercing" under the Federal statutes, then isn't its sale via GunBroker.com a violation of the law and of the TOS?
Am I missing something here?
I wouldn't mind picking up at least a few rounds of genuine Chinese ammo to go with my Norinco SKS; not so much for target use as for an appropriate accompaniment to the rifle. The items in question come in original wrapping and I think would be "cool to just have."
But I'm leery of the offer. I'm in no hurry to piss off the Authorities, however I may disagree with laws that appear to contradict the clear language of the Second Amendment.
Advice and information would be welcomed.
What confuses me is the exact definition of "armor piercing" as outlined here:
http://www.firearmslawcenter.org/content/Federallawsummary.asp#ammunitionregulation
As opposed to the description of the "steel core" ammo here:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=112088624
The auction item is described as "armor piercing". But the definitions on the web page above don't seem to clearly define steel core ammo as necessarily armor-piercing.
Quotes:
"designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor"
"any projectile or projectile core that may be used in a handgun and that is constructed entirely from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium"
"defined as a full jacketed projectile 'larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.'"
My questions are these:
Is a rifle definable as a handgun? Surely they also mean to include rifles in the definition? Perhaps the writer of that page omitted a bit of crucial language?
Is the steel core in the Chinese ammo that's on offer "designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor"? Has a steel core no other function?
And, if the ammo on offer IS firmly definable as "armor piercing" under the Federal statutes, then isn't its sale via GunBroker.com a violation of the law and of the TOS?
Am I missing something here?
I wouldn't mind picking up at least a few rounds of genuine Chinese ammo to go with my Norinco SKS; not so much for target use as for an appropriate accompaniment to the rifle. The items in question come in original wrapping and I think would be "cool to just have."
But I'm leery of the offer. I'm in no hurry to piss off the Authorities, however I may disagree with laws that appear to contradict the clear language of the Second Amendment.
Advice and information would be welcomed.
Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
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I want to buy a small amount for my AK-47.
I want to have my 2-10 round mags loaded with them for the unexpected.
I have my 30 round mags loaded with Hollow Points.
The 10 round mags will be kept in my Tactical Vest and not in the gun unless needed.
I have no intention of using these against Bullet Proof Vests.
http://www.awbansunset.com/
Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
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may be possessed
shall not be inported or sold commercially.
That is the key. If it can be fired in a pistol or revolver. Rifle only AP is not against Federal law. Some states have their own laws against it.
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You see this being sold on GB and AA quite often, but at fairly high prices.
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I would like to have about 50 rounds on hand.
I think I will buy some. I live in a Free State(FL).
http://www.awbansunset.com/
Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
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Used to buy it for $1.25 or so a box of 20 it seems.......wish I could find some for that now.
I Miss The World I Grew Up In!
i can look it up in the newest atf book
ill a.p. is a no no ,as well as some others
yep its me ,same one for 4 years now
RR
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