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m1 garand
skeens41
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I just got a correct grade M1 from CMP. I don't know a whole lot about them, I field stripped it and cleaned it by using the instructions included. Everything looks great. I was wondering though, the instruction say I should have it looked over by an experienced gunsmith before firing. Is this just a c.y.a. statement, aren't these rifles headspaced and test fired? Thanks, John
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shenandoahbiz@aol.com
Thanks for the help
Would appreciate it if anybody can provide date of manufacture.
Thanks
BE QUICK - BE DEADLY!!!
Franko fpateconner@aol.com
Any thoughts??[:(]
It is an International Harvester with the correct LMR barrel.
Serial number 449XXXX. Maunfactured in 1953 if I am correct.
Bore dirty but can be cleaned in my opinion. Wood dinged but not excessive. Metal actually decent for the most part with no rust or pitting to the naked eye. It appears to cycle without any problems.
Now the hitch, it has an import mark on the barrel just under the front sight. It is very light and, in fact, cannot be read easily even with my reading glasses. However, it is there.
So, should I ignore the import mark or keep looking? I will be buying a M1 Garand as part of a collection as the time presents itself.
Based on the value of this rifle, does the import mark really affect the collection value for the future that much?
Any and all comments a welcome.
Thanks
It's me again, what does "original configuration" mean? (The rifle has "rack" markings on the stock, the handguard has been replaced, it doesn't seem to have any aftermarket additions etc. Thanks. [:p]
Im going to be buying a M1 garand soon but i dont know a whole lot about the different brands/makes out there. I know springfield makes a nice one thats very accurate, but they run about 1000 bucks. i was wondering if there are any other quality makes out there, and are any of them cheaper? I want a reliable, accurate rifle, so i dont want to get one of the cheap parts guns unless they are good quality.
Also, for anyone who owns one of these, how accurate are they with typical ball ammo? What kind of groups should i expect from the one i buy?
Thanks in advance for any input!
Thanks Andy.
Thanks!
Alan
By new, you are refering to Springfield, Inc. rifles, correct?
Better to go with authentic rifles (Springfield Armory-not Springfield Armory, Inc). The "real" rifles won't have a little stamp to the right of the "Y" on the receiver.
When you walked into the gunshop, did you have in mind a .308 rifle? If not, save your money, get an original 30-06, and you're good to go. For instance, see link below. And look at the price!! It's unfired since arsenal refinish!
(By the way, arsenal refinished is the same as new condition, for all practical purposes in my opinion). Here's the link. Joe
EDIT:
Also, those two gunshops you walked into? If they had the rifle in the link below, they would be selling it for nearly $2,000.00. How's that for saving your money?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=96287150#DESC
http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/m1garand.htm
Good luck and enjoy shooting which ever one you get.
Emmett
NOT civilian .308, check the literature!!!) by the U.S. and
other countries, many were built that way, especially in Italy,
late in the program. And many civilians are converting them
with high quality barrels, and THOSE would be to the tighter
civilian specification, not to mention having MUCH higher
quality barrels, to much tighter tolerances. The newer cartridge
is much more accurate, and normally--but not right now--it's
cheaper than .30 and a bit easier to locate as well.
SAI receivers are all castings, not to GI spec.
Nor did Springfield, INCORPORATED, EVER make a military rifle
for issue ANYWHERE.
There is a profound difference in strength.
Lots of Garands were converted to 7.62x51 NATO (NO, that is
NOT civilian .308, check the literature!!!) by the U.S. and
other countries, many were built that way, especially in Italy,
late in the program. And many civilians are converting them
with high quality barrels, and THOSE would be to the tighter
civilian specification, not to mention having MUCH higher
quality barrels, to much tighter tolerances. The newer cartridge
is much more accurate, and normally--but not right now--it's
cheaper than .30 and a bit easier to locate as well.
SAI receivers are all castings, not to GI spec.
Nor did Springfield, INCORPORATED, EVER make a military rifle
for issue ANYWHERE.
There is a profound difference in strength.
One big difference. Although military manufactured rifles may not be as "close toleranced" as a quality job done by an experienced gunsmith, arsenal worked rifles are milspec-known tolerances.
Even if the average buyer had knowledge of the who's-who of Garand riflesmiths, how would he know for sure if one of them worked on the rifle he's looking at at the gunshop? Best to have one sold to you directly by the [known-with reputation] gunsmith. Best, Joe
a rifle to the military, ever!) are way stronger, and the genuine
thing, in this case, is actually cheaper. I shoot primarily .308
M1's, both so as to save original barrels which CANNOT be replaced,
and because the newer cartridge is more accurate and more versatile,
and to prolong the rifle's life, and have done 4+ decades of research
to do that properly. And SAI hasn't made a new receiver in five years. But you can convert and refinish a GI receiver and get a new stock and have a better product to entertain yourself for FAR
less than those prices. Plus, it's a better unit, too.