INFO on AR-15

ItGoBang

Just got a Colt (SPORTER) Match Target H-BAR (R6700CH) In the Blue book, it says... It's "Range Selected" for opitmal accuracy. What the heck is "Range Selected" ???????????[?]

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JudgeColt

At the risk of offending GreenLantern again, you do not have an AR-15, you have a Sporter. The AR-15 name was discontinued about 20 years ago.

"Range Selected" means that the barrels were tested for accuracy at the "Range" and were "Selected" for above-average accuracy for use on these rifles.

ItGoBang

Thanks Judge for the info.....
PLEASE dont pick on my friend, GREENLANTERN.......[:D]

And I call it an AR-15, CUZ... It says on the side ( AR15 ) Maybe I missed your infor about it, But please tell me, Why it's not an AR-15 [^]

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ItGoBang

I APOLOGIZE To the JUDGE, You were right! [:I]

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Boomerang

The range selected guns were the ones chosen during test/proof firing that exhibited the best groupings. Accuracy in AR rifles is not only due to having a good barrel, it also has to with how well the bolt locks up to it.

Boomer

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mark christian

AR-15 is a trademarked name owned by Colt firearms Company. Colt bought the rights to use the AR-15 name from Armalite back in the early 1960's. The first AR-15 rifles were all selective fire machineguns but later Colt used this designation for the new semi automatic sporting rifle they developed and began to market in 1963. This rifle was commonly called the AR-15 SP-1 and remained in production until around 1985 when the SP-II was introduced. In mid 1989 Colt withdrew the AR-15 from public sales in an effort to show support for the ban on sales of assault weapons. This proved to be a very poor marketing move as it angered countless loyal Colt customers and cost the company millions of dollars in lost sales revenue when shooters switched over to companies like Olympic Arms and Bushmaster.

In early 1990 Colt changed owners and a new seami auto rifle was introduced called the "Sporter". This rifle lacked the AR-15's bayonet lug and Colt placed a pinned block in the lower receiver to prevent the unlawful installation of a "Drop in autosear" or any M16 internal parts. You will often see the term "no block" when AR-15's are discussed. In 1994 as part of the Crime Bill Colt was forced to remove the flash hidder from its "Sporter" rifle and the resulting rifle was named the "Match Target". According to your post this is the rifle which you own and not an AR-15. It would take a treemendous effort on the part of Colt to reintroduce AR-15 rifles for sale to the public again...although they will continue to own the trademark for ever. In the mean time dealers such as myself can still purchase AR-15 rifles with all of the pre ban features for sale to LEO's. This is a very brief look at a complicated subject but it may hep to clear up your misconceptions about your rifle...it is NOT an AR-15.

Mark T. Christian

ItGoBang

Thanks Mark... The AR that I have been asking about is, whats called a "Blue Label" It has the flash hidder and a pinned block but no bayonet lug. I just got this and never looked to see if it said AR15, But all my other AR's say AR15, most are Colt, but a few are not. And I have one that says... CAR 15 [:D] Thanks for all the info [:)]

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gurn

"Frisbee" is a trademarked name too, but everyone calls just about any plastic-flying/throwing-disc a "frisbee", saves time. North American Bison are called buffalo, who cares. You order a Coke and you get Pepsi, because that's the only type of carmel-flavored-carbonated-beverage they have there, get over it. I'll file this under "W" in the who-gives-a-$*# section.

JudgeColt

gurn, you are right that certain trademarks have become almost generic, such as Scotchtape, Cellophane, Xerox, Kleenix, etc.. However, I guarantee that if I order a Coke and get a Pepsi, I do not get over it. It is not what I ordered. I do not like Pepsi. If I want to buy tissue, I buy Kleenix so as to get the popup box not offered on Puffs. The correct name is important and should be used (I might concede an exception for "Frisbee" - but Wham-O would not). While one flying disc may be functionally the same as another, the value is not, nor is it with a Colt AR-15 and a clone.

If you do not care whether you get a Colt AR-15 or an Oly AR-15-type rifle, I have a nice post-ban Oly for $2000 I would like to sell you. If you do not care, why reply at all? Perhaps as a new member, you do not realize this is the "experts" portion of the GunBroker boards, and "experts" should be precise in their use of language. Only Colt made an AR-15 and the use of that term should be restricted to Colt rifles. For example, if reference is being made to a Bushmaster M15, say so. Why call it by a name it does not have?

gurn

I agree with you, proper nomenclature is very important, but if you want to see all of the AR-15 type rifles up for auction, you'll have better luck searching for AR-15 and not M15, Sporter, XM15, J-15 or EA-15 or the myriad of other names currently in use. The searches bring those up, but AR-15 is usually in the subject line too. Use of AR-15 cuts to the chase. So it's not just me. I'll choose other fights to fight and live with the mis-use of it. You seem to hold it more sacred than Colt ever did.
Just because I don't post much, I'm a "junior" member. I watched this forum get thin with "expert" advice a long time ago.

MIKE WISKEY

I agree with gurn, I too usualy stay out of piss'n matches but ar-15 types are just that, 200 million m-98 Mausers cann't be all wrong (by probably 100's of mgfs.).

4GodandCountry

Bwaa ha ha ha ha ha! Only the name and the resale value distinguish colt from many of their competitors. Functionally they are indistinguishable. I was issued a Bushmaster in Korea, liked it, never had a failure or any problems with it so now I own Bushy's. I bet when you send your wife after bread and milk you tell her what name brands are acceptable too.[:D]

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drobs

I was issued a FN M16A2. So when is FN gonna start selling AR's to the general public?

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