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Quality of currently manufactured rifles.

rocktonrockton Member Posts: 551 ✭✭✭
edited June 2003 in Ask the Experts
What do you think of the quality of rifles presently being manufactured as compared to 10 years ago.

I have my views and am wondering if anyone else thinks the same way.

Thanks

Rockton

Comments

  • 625625 Member Posts: 125 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought a brand new .22 target rifle ($365) last summer and it wouldn't hold a candle to any of my old Mossberg target rifles.

    As in:
    M43
    M44US
    M144
    46M
    or any of my H&R M12's

    I'm not talking about Anschutz, Cooper , or the high dollar rifles.

    Production is up, but I'm not convinced quality is. There are exceptions, before I get blasted. [:)]

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  • PRZNCOP110PRZNCOP110 Member Posts: 947 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What I have noticed is a lot of manufacturers have saved tons of money by using composite stocks. Very few have taken those savings and put it back into the rifle in the form of improvements. Savage did a world of good when they came out with the accu-trigger. But everyone else seemed to put the savings in thier pockets. The only real improvement is probably better triggers from most manufacturers over the years. Other changes, good or bad is up to each individual, are all cosmetic.



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  • warcrobwarcrob Member Posts: 358 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think it depends on who the manufacturer is. The is some good quality out there and then there are not. economy guns don't have to suffer from quality either.
    Any rifle i've seen made by Tika is good and they are very popular in this area.
    Economy wise so are Savage rifles, I purchased a Savage 111G in 25-06 with a walnut stock about a year ago. For the money I paid for it there is nothing wrong with the qualiy
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It totally depends on the manufactures. But if we look at high end guns, they are probably better now than ever before, with closer tolerances being produced using CNC machines, newer methods of treating metals (I.E. Cryogenics), and better metals.

    Cheap guns will always be cheap.
  • 4C_Ranch4C_Ranch Member Posts: 61 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think in general, alot of rifles are of better quality. This is due to CNC technology which allows manufacturers to make designs which before, required handwork. Im thinking of Winchester mainly and their pre-64 type action. Not much change in your bedrock makers like Ruger. I dont like the MkII model 77 as well as the old model with the tang safety. I guess the most disturbing trend to me is manufacturers lawyer proofing their guns. Remington and Ruger's ugly warnings on the barrels and Winchester and Marlin's new safeties...
  • scksck Member Posts: 145 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There have been some design improvements here and there, but in general the quality of the merchandise and the quality of the customer service has gone down considerably. Having recently left a small shop that did a great deal of special order business, I know that there aren't many manufacturers whose product I've not had to send back. In fact, ten years ago, you just sent it back to the distributor, but now some of the the distributors don't want the stuff back; they want you to send it to the factory and wait six months for it to be returned, often in the same poor shape. SIG, Winchester and Beretta are particularly bad right now. Since one of the folks above mentioned it, I will add that the only company I don't remember sending something back to was Cooper. Best of luck.
  • old single shotsold single shots Member Posts: 3,594
    edited November -1
    I don't recall ever seeing anyone back in the 50's haveing to return a new gun because of problems.They gave them plenty of use and then passed them down to be used some more.Today it is very common to buy a new gun with problems.Personally,i own very few guns manufactured after the late 50's or early 60's.Guns used to be made to last a lifetime or more.I do not believe,in most cases,that is true today.
  • fort_knoxfort_knox Member Posts: 263 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have noticed that Remington is a little sloppy with their fit on their heavy barrel synthetic model 700's. They barrel floats free of the fore-stock on these, but it sure is close to touching on one side or the other...and there is clearance on the other side like the Grand Canyon. I have looked at these in several shops and seen the same thing.

    Granted, these are just utilitarian ~$600 generic synthetic stock rifles, but I think they could do a little better job w/o much effort. I notice stuff like that right away...probably shoots just fine though.
  • bandcollectorbandcollector Member Posts: 218 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently purchased a rifle and made the mistake of looking at the display and not looking at the one in the box they brought me when I decided I would buy it. When I got home and opened the box I realized it didn't have a clip. Thats the kind of thing I hear about alot more often than poor quality just poor final inspections of the mercandise at the factory.
  • roger2fanroger2fan Member Posts: 19 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I must admit most of my older arms seem to be better then some new ones the only one I have never had any problems is S&W old or new they work great.

    Roger2fan
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