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7x57R and 6.5x57R????

groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
edited June 2003 in Ask the Experts
Had somebody looking for these two today! I speak English!!! Found a lot of sites on the web that list them but don't have a clue what they said in their ads or posts!!! Where can I get some of the rounds? (Almost stopped the last question at where can I get some but thought that would invite a lot of crude comments!)[:D]GHD
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  • kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    I am not aware of a 6.5x57R, but the 7x57R is a rimmed version of the 7x57 Mauser and ammo should be available from S&B or Fiocchi. The 6.5x55 is the 6.5 Swedish but I have never encountered a 6.5x57R.

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  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    KJ, Neither had I until today!! The same guy that I got the shotgun loading stuff off of had a Drilling chambered for it!! No wonder he was selling his reloading stuff! If you can own those kind of guns, you can sip your Chardonay and admire them! To hell with reloading for em!!! GHD
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  • kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    Yep, I've only seen the 7x57R offered for drillings and OU shotgun/rifle combos. Seems more trouble than its worth.

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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    S & B lists both cartridges on their web-site, if they are both available on this side of the pond, is another question?


    http://www.sb-usa.com/rifle.htm


    Believe the 6.5 x 57R is the rimmed version of the Portuguese military round. The body diameter is something like .007 in diameter smaller then the Swede 6.5 x 55, very very obscure here in the land of the big PX.
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  • kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    Rufe,
    Wasn't that the "Kropatchek" or something like that?

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  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    KJ, See what I mean? Now I've even got you trying to write in tongues!!! GHD
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  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No, the Portuguese round was called the "VERGUEIRO". They really went off the deep end when they bought new rifles for their army back in the early 19 hundreds. Not only did they go with this Vergueiro round, that nobody else used, BUT they designed a * rifle ( Mauser only made it for this one Portuguese contract ) that was half Mauser and half Mannlicher ( split bridge receiver ), really really weird?
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  • kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the info, guess I got some new trivia to look into. Guess they just had to be different.[;)]

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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rufe, the Portugese have always tended to take "the road less traveled" - much like the french, with equally impressive results. [:D]

    KJ, the Kropatschek came in two flavors - the "short" (8x56R) and the standard (8x60R); these were used from 1899 until supplanted by the 6x58 Vergueiro in 1904. Interestingly, it is far easier to find the 8x60R than the 6x58!!!!!

    Charlie, to address your original question, the 6.5x57R & 7x57R rounds are simply the rimmed versions of the 6.5x57 / 7x57 and used in various European (primarily German) weapons with break-open actions - whether doubles, singles, drillings or the even more exotic types. Not really all that unusual, but relatively hard to obtain this side of the Pond. The 7mm is usually easier to obtain than the 6.5. Norma, RWS, DWM all made it at one time and probably still do. The problem is finding it Stateside.
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  • SunraySunray Member Posts: 773 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Old Western Scrounger carries the 6.5 x 57R. It's a 7x57Rmm necked down. Cheap it ain't. $18 and up for brass. Over $100 for dies.
    http://www.ows-ammunition.com/
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