Hi-Point

jeffsfirearms

Since I recieved such great info. from all of you recently I thought I would run this by you as well. I am also getting alot of inquiries about Hi-Point firearms. They look to be cheaply made but I have been told that these are pretty rugged pistols. The low price makes them attractive and the warranty even more so. I have never fired one of these and would like to know a little more about them. If anyone has any experience with these I sure would appreciate your thoughts.(yes,I know they are not much to look at)

Jeff

jeffsfirearms

Is a Hi-Point carbine a good rifle for the money?

jeffsfirearms

Thinkin of buyin a Hi- point carbine,Any of ya tell me if i should or not,seems like a fun gun.!Thanks,Paul

jeffsfirearms

I'm looking at getting a hi-point pistol.....mostly for fun...have read good things about them.....when I talked to my local gun shop they said the tried and true "you get what you pay for"....what do you guys think about them.....looking at the 40 pistol and the carbine...thanks.

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jeffsfirearms

does ati or somebody make an aftermarket stock for the hi point .40 cal carbine as well as the 9mm? are they the same size? interchangeable? thanks.

interstatepawnllc

With very few exceptions this adage about firearms always applies, "You get what you pay for."

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4GodandCountry

JUNK(.)

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Khegglie

The 9mm carbine has gotten fairly good press lately.

mpolans

In my (not so) humble opinion, they're ghetto p.o.s. Granted, the higher end of ghetto p.o.s., but ghetto p.o.s. nonetheless.

Khegglie

If you simply can not afford a more expensive firearm, and you find a Hi point that functions every time you use it , it goes beyond a P.O.S rating. This is a simple tool, not a range impression piece. The ghetto crack has no bearing.... IMHO

4GodandCountry

When your at the range and see a high point slide go flying down range you will think they are junk too. Unreliable pos. You would be better off with a daisy bb gun.High Point = Major POS.

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sck

I agree with everyone who describes the HiPoint as a POS, and disagree with the comment that the "ghetto crack has no bearing...." It has a tremendous bearing. Living in a moderately large city where we are experiencing an increasing number of nightly shootings, I can tell you that each shooting reported on television and in the newspaper is one more strike against those of us who own and use guns lawfully. As the number of shootings increase, so does the cry against firearms and firearms ownership. And guess what kinds of weapons are involved in these shootings? It's not Colt, Beretta, or Smith & Wesson. Ninty-nine times out of a hundred it's a cheaply made, low quality weapon such as Lorcin, Jennings, or Bryco and now, with increasing regularity, HiPoint. There are a few people who defend the manufacture and sale of these cheap, poor quality firearms on the grounds that the right to keep and bear arms shouldn't be dependant on your economic status. These same people quickly add that poor people have the right to defend themselves and in fact, because of where they have to live, are in greater need of protection than the rest of society. Arguements like these are simply garbage, put forward by those who stand to gain financially from the continued manufacture and sale of these cheap firearms. You will never hear about a poor person defending him/herself with a HiPoint or a Jennings, but you will see story after story about some punk robbing a gas station or a convenience store with one. If we are going to defend the right to keep and bear arms, we have to be responsible enough to control our own by refusing to allow anyone whose conduct (ie the manufacturing and sale of cheap firearms) threatens or harms the rights enjoyed by the rest of us. Just as we do not tolerate dangerous drivers on our roads and call 911 to report them, we should not tolerate the manufacture and sale of weapons that pose a danger to the community at large and the firearms community in particular. It is no coincidence that one of the weapons of choice of the sociopaths that perpetrated the Columbine tragedy was a Hi Point carbine.

One final point, I see that by your name you may be the owner of a gun shop. If this is the case, allow me to add that by selling Hi-Point firearms you will be creating problems and are potentially endangering your license. One of the considerations that determines the frequency of an audit by ATF is the number of crime guns and traces that go through your shop. Based on personal experience and dozens of other dealers to whom I have talked about the subject, unless your shop is in some extremely rural area or you personally know every customer to whom you sell a Hi Point, you can expect to receive requests for traces on between 10-20% of those sales That will get the attention of the folks at ATF. If you have a large enough number of traces, you will be required to do weekly reports on all used firearm transactions. If you're willing to accept that and have no conscious about selling a product that harms society and the firearms community, you should be successful in the field of low quality, cheap firearms. Let us know what you decide. Best of Luck -- Steve

Khegglie

I maintain my point that the Ghetto response is crap. You are falling into the trap that a gun can be judged by who(some crimminal) is using it. Because of un - thought out opinions like yours, Mr. Moderate sized city, we have "assault weapon bans. If punks start using stolen Kimbers exclusively for crimes, will that affect your gun snobbery as well Mr. Citizen gun owner? I wouldnt Trust my life to a HI Point, because I dont have to. But if for some reason it was all I could AFFORD, and it WORKED(re-read post) I wounld carry the ugly hunk of iron untill I could get something better. I dont own a gun shop(I just live in them[:D])! Hi Points Bryco, Rossi, Jennings dont result in higher trace requests just because you sell them. This is More Crap. Sir.... the problem is THE PUNK in the gas station, not his gun. Another point.... You sound as if you are assuming The PURCHASED firearm is winding up inthe hand of your theoretical crimminal; If so what would you say if Mr. C bought Glocks instead?? I dont defend junk guns; just the fact that somebody somewhere might just need one.....hopefully only for a while. Incedentally, one of my first carry out of the hospital to the parking lot guns was a Bryco Pot metal special....rec'ed by a REGISTRY cop! I studied, learned , and up graded quickly. THanx......KHEGG

sck

Let me try to make this "unthought out response" a little more clear. First, I was responding to jeffsfirearms, not you. You may try rereading yourself, but then the problem doesn't seem to be reading as much as understanding. Second, after 40 years of thought and experience in the firearms business and on the streets of America it is not opinion but fact that you and those who defend junk firearms are as big a problem as the hoods and punks who use them to commit robbery, rape and murder on our streets. Third, using the poverty argument is simply playing the victum. You want us all to feel sorry for you because you couldn't afford anything else. The last punk who tried to rob me used the same argument before the judge who laughed him out of court. Forth, we have an assult weapons ban for the same reason we have a 1968 gun control act. People like you who refused to admit there was a problem. The 1968 Gun Control Act was intended, in part, to stop "saturday night specials." The firearms industry and gun owners chose not to do anything about junk guns, largely from Europe, and the result was a federal ban and another mountain of regulation. The firearms industry and gun owners chose not to do anything about assult weapons becoming basic tools of urban gang-bangers and druggies, and the federal government responded with another round of regulation. See a pattern here? At the current rate based on your refusal to act responsibly, in another twenty years the federal government will have removed the option for you and outlawed all private ownership of firearms. Anyone who defends junk guns and those who use them is only deluding themselves and encouraging disaster.

gunnut505

OK you kids, don't make me come back there!
The arguments are BOTH well-reasoned, make sense at first blush, and convey the vigor with which you believe them.
However, the fact that the gun in question has not been around for 40 years has some merit; maybe YOU have been selling that long-how many traces of semi-autos do you get versus wheelguns? Does this mean that since more traces are for semi's; they should stop making them?
It's only a matter of time before the way kids/punks/gangbangers are indoctrinated for servitude resembles Medieval serfdom. Chances are, they won't respect anything but the most EXTREME (what an overused word!)authority. Now you have no more America.
I mean, when a youth commits an infraction, it gets harsh right away. How many times did you touch the stove to see if she was lying?

I don't want to get off-subject here, but the analogy that cheap guns are responsible for crimes and that it's only misguided youth that commits crime, but they need a gun to do it are crap.
It's not the toaster cord; it's the criminal's intent to do you wrong!

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