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Whats the best caliber

Bushnell BoyBushnell Boy Member Posts: 247 ✭✭✭
edited June 2003 in Ask the Experts
I have had a .223 and a 22-250 but I am looking for a long range high caliber rifle. Whats your opinion? which heavy caliber is the best one. I did a little research and the rem 300 ultra mag seemed liked the best one. I could be wrong let me know. Also which rifle? I'm looking at the saveage and the rem 700.




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  • fort_knoxfort_knox Member Posts: 263 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was watching "Tales of the Gun" on the History Channel several weeks ago. The episode was "Snipers." One of the weapons featured for use by the military was a modified Remington 700 in .300 Winchester Magnum. Kinda sounds like you were looking in that direction already. If it's good enough for those guys it should be for the rest.
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  • Daddy2B8162Daddy2B8162 Member Posts: 70 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    BB, I use a 300 win mag and 7mm rem mag. I like them both, but favor the 300 win. I have it in a Browning Medalion with a 26 " brl. With hand loads I get sub moa results and at 250 yards I get sub 2" groups. I guess it depends alot on what you are looking to do..... The ultra mags do intrest me, especially the 375 UM, but I am hesitant to spend the money until they have been around a bit longer. Have fun shopping !!!! DD2b
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  • Myra-LouMyra-Lou Member Posts: 641 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why fool around.......go for a 50Cal BMG......The 'boys' on the M1 Abrams in Iraq swear by em......best of luck......john.......
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why not look at the 300 Thomahawk (sp), which is a improved 300 Ultra, pushing 240gr Matchkings or VLD's.
    Noseka or Bat receiver, 36" Lija barrel, McMillen stock with Nightforce NP-R2 optics on 20MOA mounts?
    Other cartridge choices would be things like the 338/416Rigby Improved, 30/338Lapua, 408ChyTac, etc.
    You did say long range (900-1600yd) so a set of Bigeyes (2 Kowa spotting scopes mounted together for use as binoculers) need to be added to the package, along with a quality range finder (the military type, not the "sportsman" type).
    You can find out more at www.longrangehunting.com

    Kowa Bigeyes kowa_bigeyes.jpg
    Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.
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  • warcrobwarcrob Member Posts: 358 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Stick with the 30 caliber, where you have the widest varieties of bullets to choose from.


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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tailgunner is telling you straight. I just built a 300RUM with a 30" tube and it is quite impressive. If you are recoil sensitive, you may want to start thinking smaller however, as even in the heavier guns, the calibers he has suggested will take a toll on your "mental" ability to maintain zero. If you are not recoil sensitive, and handload, then look at the 300tomahawk, 338-378, 338/416, 338-416imp, 408 chey-tac, etc. You will be paying for quite a bit of powder,...so keep that in mind as well.[:0]

    300 win mag is a good one,...but 300RUM walks it on the long hauls. The 300wthby would be my choice before the 300 win mag.

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I'm with JustC,about the 300 win mag it has a short neck, the 300 weatherby is a better cartrage, On the other hand I have 2 300 win mags that shoot excelent.
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  • SunraySunray Member Posts: 773 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "...a long range high caliber rifle..." For what type of shooting and what do you call long range? Target shooting, hunting? 500 yards. 1,000 yards? It makes a difference. I'd stay away from these new Ultra mags. It is conceivable they won't sell and therefore 5 years form now you won't be able to get ammo or brass. That and the RUM ammo is mucho expensive. So is anything that has the word Weatherby attached to it.
    The .30-06, .308 Win or the .300 Win mag, with a personal preference of the .308 Win will do all the long range target shooting you can think of. Although the .300 Mag has an edge at 1,000.
    The rifle is irrelevant as they'll all shoot just fine. However, target rifles are a different beast. Heavy barrels and after market triggers are important. As is the very best ammo. That only comes from your loading bench.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you are a hunter, the .30-06 will do anything you want to do.
    Except brown bears of course.

    My heros have always killed cowboys.
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  • SilverBoxSilverBox Member Posts: 2,347 ✭
    edited November -1
    HERE IS WHAT YOU NEED...

    http://www.world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The current light gun world record is held with the 300RUM,.....they will sell due to the benchrest crowd dictating what lives and what dies. They are the ones who are responsible for the 300wthby making a big comeback. The ammo is only expensive once,...then you handload it for the same as any other caliber.

    Price is NEVER a factor when used in the same sentence as long range. Neither is factory ammunition. If you truly wish to get to 1000yds, it won't be tomorrow, and it won't be cheap.

    1. Handloading is a must to control ammunition variables.
    2. A good rest system.
    3. Lots of practice,....and then some more.
    4. A good gunsmith needs to be contacted also.

    If you must use a factory rifle,....look at the rem 700 Sendero and PSS. The savage 12bvs is nice as well,..but I wasn't all that impressed with the new accurtrigger that I used a few weeks back. I am biased towards the 700rem, so take that for what it's worth.

    This is not an inexpensive hobby,..but worth every penny in satisfaction.[8D]

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
    Got Balistics?
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