300 ultra or 300 weatherby

mrfox

Which shoots faster, flatter and most accurate?

aglore

The Ultra shoots faster and therefore flatter. Each firearm is it's own entity so that will depend on which is more accurate.

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mrfox

quote:Originally posted by mrfox
Which shoots faster, flatter and most accurate?


Aglore, thanks for the reply, My other issue is I just bought a Browning abolt 2 in 300Ultra about 4 months ago. As dumb luck would have it I just inherited a german Weatherby 300, since I elk hunt maybe once every couple of years I'm only keeping one of the rifles. Preferably the Weatherby for it's inherent value. Just out of curiosity, which company do you guys think makes the better elk rifle?

Thanks,
John

aglore

All companies make good Elk rifles. It's the cartridge that matters more than anything else. Either of those would be good Elk cartridges.

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Travis Hallam

They are almost identical if using a 180 partition bullet.

Mad Dog

Travis Hallam

They are almost identical if using a 180 partition bullet.

300 Wby MV=3240 100=3028 200=2826 300=2631 400=2459 500=2294

300 RUM MV=3250 100=3037 200=2834 300=2640 400=2454 500=2276

300 Wby BC of .474 and 300 RUM BC of .472 using factory ammo and info.

Weatherby promises their factory ammo to be a 1.5 MOA so I would assume it to be more reliable as far as out of the box accuracy but obviously some 300 RUM rifles could shoot more accurate than this.

Mad Dog

robsguns

I'd say you need to decide which one you like shooting more, and with what weight bullet, then decide which one is more accurate for you. Based on which one is more accurate, balanced with which one has more comfortable attributes, and is more aesthetically pleasing, keep it, and get rid of the other one. I'd also consider which one costs more to shoot, which I'd guess neither is cheap. If you dont reload, figure out which one is going to have the more available ammunition. If you do reload, then you know what to look at already. Of course you could take the easy way out, and just keep both.[;)]


SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC

JustC

300 wthby is accurate as is the 300RUM. The RUM has loads more power, and was developed to push the 200gr and up pills with the speed that the belted mags can push the 165 and 180gr projectiles. If you are shooting long distance at game, the obvious advantage would go to the RUM,...but for an elk shot at no more than 300yds,...he won't know the difference.

The Wthby action isn't known for it's inherent accuracy,..but it is known for being extremely strong with it's 9 locking lugs,...not to mention a beautiful bluing process. The browning is a quite accurate gun out of the box,...but not as strong as the wthby action. As long as you follow any rules reguarding handloads, that shouldn't matter however.

It pretty much comes down to which one do you like the most?

And I second robsguns suggestion,...they don't eat or take showers,..so keep em both[8D]

why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
Got Balistics?

Guns & Glass

Common miscomparison is the 300 Weatherby Mag vs 300 RUM.
This was done by Remington, whose Marketing dept sadly mislead the shooting world.
Some things really get my 'goat', and accurate, fair, and honest info for the shooting world is a passion of mine.

When Rem intro'd the 300 RUM the sales literature was way off. The new sales lit, was cleaned up as they gave themselves a bloody nose over the misrepresentation.

They did it with a special 30" test barrel,...that you can't buy, in a test tunnel you can't shoot in, against the loads they make. They underload the 300 WBy mag ammo they sell.
They didn't go nose to nose against Weatherby's factory load.

300 RUM uses over 8% more powder to give only 4% more velocity @ 300yds. Lot of smoke for very little gain.

To really be accurate , compare the 30-378 WBY Mag to the 300 RUM.
No real contest there, in accuracy, or down range performance.

German Weatherby is built much better, and will most certainly retain a much higher value.


Happy Bullet Holes!

Travis Hallam

The info I posted for The REM 300 Ultra was using a 24" barrel.

Guns&Glass is right about not comparing straight across because they only compare to a 300 Wby in a core lokt bullet while they use superior bullets to list the velocity of the 300 Ultra mag.

I grabbed the info from both home sites for their Partition bullets so the info listed should be close to being accurate.

Mad Dog

mrfox

Outstanding, I'm happy to hear everyone's say on the matter. After reading eveyone's opinion and talking to some of my buddies, I'm gonna follow SSGT Robert's SOP and just keep both weapons. After sustaining a nice black n blue baseball size bruise on my shoulder, I found out this morning I can shoot about the same size shot group with both weapons. Both have 4 x 12 leupolds mounted on them, and I shot from 100 meters to 600 meters. Both seem about the same except that the 300 Ultra kicks twice as hard as the Weatherby.


Thanks,
John