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Granpa's Guns
A Country Boy Can Survive
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Thanks to everyone here for their help on the identification and valuation of my Great-grandfather's Colt Lightning. I visited my Grandfather in Texas this past week and he asked me, "Do you know how to field strip a 1911?" This conversation resulted in his showing me a couple other family heirlooms. He did not give them up yet, but I cleaned and lubed them, and told him I would see what I could find out:
First was his issue sidearm in WWII: Remington Rand 1911. I do not have any pictures. Right side is marked: UNITED STATES MILITARY PROPERTY, NO. 10064XX M1911A1 U.S. ARMY. It shows what appear to be crossed cannons in a circle just behind the right grip panel. The left side reads: Remington Rand Inc. Syracuse, NY USA. "FJA" below slide release, P marked by magazine release, another P marked on the top of the slide in front of the rear sight. The pistol has a parkerized finish with a few scratches here and there, but zero rust. It has the reddish colored bakelite grip panels and a lanyard loop. It does not have the original magazine, but I had an extra I gave him. J
The second was left to him by my maternal great grand-father. It is a Smith and Wesson 5-shot, top-break revolver. It has a deep blue-black finish that looks almost new with the exception of some rubbing near the muzzle and a few barely visible rust spots near the grip. It has a 3.5" barrel and black plastic grips. It has a hammer-mounted firing pin and a case hardened hammer. The right side shows the S&W trademark, and all visible numbers match 4892X. The left side reads 38 S&W CTG. Along the top of the barrel it reads," Smith and Wesson, Springfield, Mass, USA, PT'D Aug 4 96 Dec 22 96 Oct 8 01 Feb 8 06 Sept 14 08.
Both guns are in perfect working order, he had the revolver loaded with 3 38 S&W cartridges for his defense piece, they looked like a short 38 special. Is this gun safe for him to fire with modern ammunition? What are the approximate values and dates of manufacture for these 2 guns? Any other info about their history would be appreciated.
Thanks.
First was his issue sidearm in WWII: Remington Rand 1911. I do not have any pictures. Right side is marked: UNITED STATES MILITARY PROPERTY, NO. 10064XX M1911A1 U.S. ARMY. It shows what appear to be crossed cannons in a circle just behind the right grip panel. The left side reads: Remington Rand Inc. Syracuse, NY USA. "FJA" below slide release, P marked by magazine release, another P marked on the top of the slide in front of the rear sight. The pistol has a parkerized finish with a few scratches here and there, but zero rust. It has the reddish colored bakelite grip panels and a lanyard loop. It does not have the original magazine, but I had an extra I gave him. J
The second was left to him by my maternal great grand-father. It is a Smith and Wesson 5-shot, top-break revolver. It has a deep blue-black finish that looks almost new with the exception of some rubbing near the muzzle and a few barely visible rust spots near the grip. It has a 3.5" barrel and black plastic grips. It has a hammer-mounted firing pin and a case hardened hammer. The right side shows the S&W trademark, and all visible numbers match 4892X. The left side reads 38 S&W CTG. Along the top of the barrel it reads," Smith and Wesson, Springfield, Mass, USA, PT'D Aug 4 96 Dec 22 96 Oct 8 01 Feb 8 06 Sept 14 08.
Both guns are in perfect working order, he had the revolver loaded with 3 38 S&W cartridges for his defense piece, they looked like a short 38 special. Is this gun safe for him to fire with modern ammunition? What are the approximate values and dates of manufacture for these 2 guns? Any other info about their history would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Comments
The "most correct" mag was made by General Shaver (division of RR) and is marked G on top of the lip. Mags marked R or S would also be considered possible.
Neal