Anschutz 1700 - 22 Hornet

dfletcher

I have a Ruger 77HB in 22 Hornet, never really been happy with it. Accurate enough, nice gun, but the Hornet seems like it should be in a rifle that doesn't have a laminated stock and grey finished metal. I just bought a single shot Anschutz 1700 (about $750.00) in excellent shape but - I know nothing about the darn thing.

Double set trigger, skip line checkering, slight Monte Carlo stock & a rosewood forend tip. The barrel diameter at the last inch or so at the muzzle is of a slightly larger diameter. Are there different grades or styles of this model?

Metal and wood are fine, however the front trigger guard screw is missing. And the screw that holds the receiver to the stock looks like an aftermarket, protrudes above the bottom of the stock. Am I in for aggravation finding replacement parts or are they not hard to come by? Does the front trigger guard screw do anything to anchor the action to the stock, or is it a plain "wood screw".

I don't see a Model 1700 listed in Numrich Arms - for the above parts, which model should I be looking for? understand this rifle is made of their Model 54 receiver, not sure if looking at that schematic helps.

Any info, anyone who has one - likes and dislikes, reloading suggestions?

charliemeyer007

http://www.chuckhawks.com/anschutz_1700_series.htm

http://www.manualslib.com/products/Anschutz-1700-Series-2771206.html

Sounds like a nice rifle. I would just make screws for it if I couldn't find some easily. Likely need to find larger screws and recut the threads and dress the heads to fit.

Hornet brass is thin, die adjustments can be/are critical to avoid damage. If it's an old boy it could be .223 and shoot better with such. 40 and 45 grain worked better for me.

rufe-snow

Hate to say it, but sounds like bubba has been working on it. Screws definitely should be Metric. Best hope he hasn't messed up the internal female threads, that secure the stock bolts to the receiver. Any time you see questionable stuff like that, it's like maggies draws flapping in the breeze.

I would take it to a competent gunsmith who is knowledgeable about metric system screws,( alot of them aren't). Hopefully he can sort it out. If you can't get the stock snugged up tight to the receiver, accuracy will be questionable.

dfletcher

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My guess is the rifle was made in the 1970s, from a distance I thought it was a Weatherby. So I'd expect it takes .224. I see lots of references to the repeater and the rimfires, nothing on a single shot. My guess (hope) is that since the action is a 54 that there's some commonality in the front trigger guard screw and receiver screw.

Update: According to my old Blue Book I would say this is the 1700D Custom - BB refences skip line checkering, rosewood forend cap, monte carlo stock, double set triggers. However it lists it as a repeater only, no reference to single shot. Evidently the 1700D "used to be" the 1432D until 1987, then became the 1700D and in 1996 became something else.

A trigger guard screw and receiver screw should be an easy fix, but I'm beginning to understand why someone said "the hell with it".

Thanks for the info on the L'il Gun, I have a pound at home for some reason. I've usually used Blue Dot, IMR 4227 but will give that a try. I know the Hornet can be a pain to reload for, I think "Rifle Shooter" magazine has an article this month by Ross Seyfried on reloading for it. One of the reasons I'm getting rid of the Ruger is the two piece bolt. I keep hearing about how it is a problem, how to shim & correct it - I'd rather not even deal with it, eliminate it as a possible accuracy issue.

perry shooter

The model 54 Is one of the best actions ever built It sounds like being a single shot and heavy barrel it is somewhat of a STrange /rare
model as 22 Hornet is NOT a normal target cartridge .I had a repeater
model that had been shot a lot with Ball powder loads when I got it at great Price. Would not shoot under 3 inches at 100 yards . Bore was very heavy fouled spent a number of hours trying to clean bore but patch still came out Dirty. I was told to use a product Ihad never heard of This was my first introduction To Kroil I was told get a piece of small cord like small engine starter cord to that would fit in bore then wet the cord and let sit 24 hours . I tried this and you would not believe The crap that came out the bore finished off the job with a few strokes with JB bore cleaner and this rifle shot better than any 22 Hornet I ever owned.

JIM STARK

+1 on the Kroil...
JIM...........

47studebaker

I was looking at a Ruger but ended up with a CZ 527 in Hornet, very nice quality and accurate.

dfletcher

quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
Hate to say it, but sounds like bubba has been working on it. Screws definitely should be Metric. Best hope he hasn't messed up the internal female threads, that secure the stock bolts to the receiver. Any time you see questionable stuff like that, it's like maggies draws flapping in the breeze.

I would take it to a competent gunsmith who is knowledgeable about metric system screws,( alot of them aren't). Hopefully he can sort it out. If you can't get the stock snugged up tight to the receiver, accuracy will be questionable.


I just picked up screws for it - 2 receiver screws, 1 trigger guard wood screw = $35.00. Maybe that's why someone cobbled the thing together.

I still haven't found quite what it is. There is a 22 Hornet single shot target rifle made by Anschutz, the "Anschutz Jagdmatch" but the stock is much different.

I haven't bought an Anschutz before, never paid much attention to them and my "nicer" newer rifles are Cooper or HS, some Steyrs and FNs. But I think I see picking up another one, probably in 222 Remington.

toad67

These guys might be able to help out. I called them awhile back for a mid 80's Anschutz that I bought and they were great.

http://www.championshooters.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=productdetails&virtuemart_product_id=41&virtuemart_category_id=41&Itemid=111