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Newbie Needs Guidance

SiennastefSiennastef Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
edited July 2014 in Ask the Experts
I'm BRAND NEW at selling Firearms through GunBroker. I live in Florida.

I just listed a 1907 J. Stevens Double Barrel Shotgun. On Florida's NRA site, they say an ANTIQUE is 1917 or earlier. Your site lists an Antique has had to be made in the 1880's.
(1) Do I need to ship an Antique Firearm to an FFL Dealer?

(2) If I have to ship it TO and FFL Dealer, does it have to be Dealers that are reciprocal to Florida or can it be any state?

(3) And, your site says not to say it is a Firearm, yet I have to have FFL paperwork on the shipping package...how can I do this without disclosing its a Firearm? So, do I have to disclose that its a Firearm to the PO, UPS, or FedEx?

(4) How do I send an Invoice to my Buyer that includes my $10 packaging fee (Box, Bubble Wrap, Tape)and also include the Shipping & Insurance Quote?

(5) If I am paid with a Cashier's Check/Money Order/Personal Check, even when these items supposedly "clear", they really don't clear for sometimes up to 30 days (I've experienced a bad Money Order on eBay). Can I say on my ad that there will be a 30 day wait until their payment completely clears all Banks before I agree to ship the Firearm?

Thanks for your guidance. Just want to make sure I'm doing everything right and not screw up.

Sincerely, Stefanie

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  • SiennastefSiennastef Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi guys,,,first post here.

    I just bought my first assault rifle. It is a DPMS 308-T 16" barrel. I now want to take off the current hand rail and replace it with a quad rail. Is this difficult to do? (I am pretty handy), could you give me some pointers on dismantling it and putting on the new one. I also could use some advise on a decent brand, I am looking to make it a bit lighter with a carbine length quad. Next I could use guidance on a decent set up for optics. I am going for the home defence/300-500 yard target shooting. I know it is a broad spectrum, it has me baffled. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

    Bobby
  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As far as the feds are concerned, an antique firearm was made prior to 1898. Your shotgun doesn't qualify as a antique, if it was made in 1907.It need to be shipped to a licensed dealer. Either with a 01 license or a 03 license.

    It can be shipped to a FFL dealer in any State.

    Shotgun best method of shipment, is through U.S. Post Office as Priority Mail. Lot cheaper and less hassle, then FedEx.

    Only funds to accept is in the form of U.S. Postal Money Order, IMHO.
  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    First of all...Welcome.

    You need to understand that the forum in which you are posting your questions is not an auxiliary arm of the auctions and there is no one here from customer service. Any questions which are answered in this forum may are not mirror official Gun Broker auction policy.

    A firearm by federal definition is an antique if it was produced prior to 1899, which means midnight 31 December, 1898. After that date it cannot be considered an antique. If you ship outside Florida then federal law must be your guide, but inside the state you can follow their regs.

    Federal Firearms Licenses are reciprocal so there is no need to find a dealer that is Florida specific.

    A package containing a firearm must be disclosed to a common carrier but the USPO is not a common carrier. You do what you feel you need to do if mailing the shotgun.

    You can list the "packing fee" as a separate charge...And then expect to see a very angry response from the buyer, who probably won't be thrilled with paying for a cardboard box your roll of tape. Your call on that one!

    How you handle personal checks is up to you. If you tell a potential buyer that you'll have to wait thirty days before shipping, even after receiving certified funds, you probably won't get many bidders.
  • CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,038 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I use the USPS for shipping all of my long guns.
    Non antique firearms shipped by a non FFL to an FFL must be mailed Registered Mail, using postal service from #1508.
    Your postmaster will have this form.
    Registered Mail has to be properly wrapped, you postmaster can tell you about this.
    You need to put a flat rate for your shipping price in your auction.
    Most bidders want to know in advance, exactly what they are going to spend on an item. Figure in your box and tape cost, look at other listings to get an idea about price.
    As has been stated, your not going to have happy customers if you charge them extra for packaging.
    Another tip, don't address the package to Homer's Gun Shop, or whatever. Instead, address it to Mr. Homer Jones, don't put anything that says gun in the address.
    Welcome to the forums.
    W.D.
  • duckhunterduckhunter Member Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where in the Regs does it say "registered mail" ???????
  • HerschelHerschel Member Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is the first time I have heard of the "registered mail" requirement. I am an ffl dealer and frequently ship and receive firearms through the USPS. I believe the form 1508 is for dealers. You should ship it with the requirement that an adult signature is required to take possession. The name of this is forum is "ask the experts". There is no guarantee that all posts are from experts.

    Some postal experts are ignorant of the postal service regulations. You can expect to be given a hard time if you tell them you are shipping a firearm.
  • 101AIRBORNE101AIRBORNE Member Posts: 1,252 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Stefanie welcome,

    I have reviewed your auction and suggest that you end it now. You have
    one bid that did not reach your reserve, therefore you may end it without any problems. I believe Mark will agree.
    You state no FFL required. This is incorrect. An 03 FFL is required
    at the minimum. The firearm is in terrible condition. Heavy pitting
    and the top lever is way to the left (indicates being loose). This
    would be dangerous to fire. It is a wall hanger only. You further indicate that you will be listing additional firearms. If this is the
    case you will need a 01 FFL. Good luck on the helmet auction.
    M/C If I did something incorrect here, pls delete.
  • SiennastefSiennastef Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you all for your time responding to my questions. I have a lot to learn. My father is the gun collector and this was just picked up, so we decided to learn about GunBroker by listing it. I don't think it needs to be taken off of auction simply because of its condition--there are many collectors that are experts at repair of old firearms. I'm selling this gun as an "old gun"--ok, not antique I know now, but close enough and Collectors love this stuff--not everyone is looking for a working gun--some enjoy repairing and reselling. We took the gun apart to get its serial number--maybe something is turned because *we* did not put it back together properly. I have no intention of ending the auction--a buyer of this gun is only buying for its age not necessarily use. Thank you all for guiding me. I will learn as I go, but I hate being unknowledgeable. Thanks for taking your time again to help me :) Sincerely, Stefanie
  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CapnMidnight
    I use the USPS for shipping all of my long guns.
    Non antique firearms shipped by a non FFL to an FFL must be mailed Registered Mail, using postal service from #1508.



    This is NOT correct

    I use USPS Priority mail with insurance and delivery confirmation
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