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Identify conversion mags

wiz1997wiz1997 Member Posts: 1,051 ✭✭
edited July 2014 in Ask the Experts
Trying to identify a magazine that appears to be a conversion to 22LR. Original mag is I believe a 9mm. Hand etched serial number on mag. Any ideas? Best I can do is provide the link to Hunt101.
There are four pictures.
www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/1404872400751.jpg
www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/1404872376505.jpg
www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/1404872340097.jpg
www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/1404872314190.jpg
Also wonder what they are worth.
Thanks.

Comments

  • rufe-snowrufe-snow Member Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is just a WAG. German outfit by the name of Peters Stahl, has made .22 conversion units for many different handguns. Not commonly used for .22 rimfire. Smith Wesson 39 & 59. Browning High Powers etc etc. That might be what they are? If so, they are worth a lot of money. Peters Stahl conversion units for obscure guns, were made in small quantities.
  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree they look like double-stack 9mm luger > .22LR conversion mags, and by the construction, most likely custom/gunsmith made (rather than factory made).

    As Rufe suggests, as a matter of practice, most of these sorts of conversions are done with common pistol makes. So the choices here are probably pretty limited about what type of pistol they fit. At first glance/comparison I don't think the mag angle is right for a Browning. Mag catch looks too high for a Beretta, and catch shape looks wrong for a Glock.

    Smith 59 series seems like a plausible fit. Peters Stahl of Germany (marketed in USA by Pachmayr) was one manufacturer of these. Unfortunately, the mags for those appear to have been made of polished stainless steel, and don't seem to be a fit here. See here: http://tinyurl.com/18r

    Could this be a Stahl .22 conversion for a different make gun? I guess so. . .but I think "something else" is probably more likely.

    Afraid, I can't add much more than that. You might have an easier time starting where you found them (ie where did you get them?) and working backwards from there. There is only so much that can be done with the images you linked to, but assuming you have the time and interest you might try comparing the shape of your conversion mags to images of common pistol mags. Assuming you find a tentative match, the next step would be to locate an actual gun and see if they fit.

    I do agree that *IF* you can figure out what gun they go into, they could potentially be reasonably valuable (like >$100 each, perhaps quite a bit more), though matching the mags to a buyer is probably not going to be all that easy.
  • tjh1948tjh1948 Member Posts: 434
    edited November -1
    I do not think they are for a Stahl's Conversion Kit; the grooves on the body of a Stahl's were more centered & not full length.

    They look like magazines for one of the Argentine BHP style weapons in 22LR. The number etched on one of them looks like an Argentine Serial Number.

    Could also be for a MACS BHP conversion kit.
  • wiz1997wiz1997 Member Posts: 1,051 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The original owner died some ten years ago. Purchased at an estate sale. Desendants know nothing of firearms otherthan they were sold off when he died. I have found other mags that l have identified so I know he had a Desert Eagle and maybe a baby eagle.I took the 22 sleeve out of the mag and can single stack 9mm. Don't have any 10mm to try. Thanks for the help.
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