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MY Daughters Pawn Shop Was Robbed

dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,540 ✭✭✭
edited July 2019 in General Discussion
The silent alarm went off Saturday night around 1015 and was never checked on.

Monday when my daughter went to work the alarm was beeping so she went to the computer and checked and a message was sent to the police and they never responded.

She called the police and they arrived over 1 hour later. They sent squad officers instead off detectives and she lost it.

She is my child. LOL

She told the officers that she knows they are busy but you can not respond for over 2 days.

The officer told her that its not her stuff why do you care. She told him i get a percentage of the profit so this month because of your lazy * i will not make anything because they stole 4 dirt bikes and 16 expensive big screen tvs.

So because your fat * was at the donut shop all weekend i am going to lose around 1000 dollars.

Im sure they are looking real hard right about now.

Comments

  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That is a sorry response time.

    Were they Sheriff dept or city cops? If its the Sheriff she should get the owner of the shop to write him a letter and complain.
    RLTW

  • dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,540 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rocky Mount NC City Police.

    My daughter was some kind of upset.

    The detectives come in every day looking for anything stolen and then when she needs them no one comes at all.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rocky Mt City Police well that explains alot. That is a bad town Dave they have a killing just about every week and drugs are crazy there.

    I don't blame her for being upset 2 days to respond or really never respond to an alarm. I am sure the shop is paying for that alarm and a response from the Police.
    RLTW

  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,080 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would ask the alarm company why they didn't call the owner or the backup numbers listed until they got in touch with someone to go check on the store. Nobody should be walking into a store that has had the alarm going off without warning.......and how on earth is any alarm set up to be a SILENT alarm when it is broken into. It sounds like the alarm company has this set up so poorly done its begging for a lawsuit.

    The store I last worked had an alarm with a battery backup and we got a few calls every year where something was making it go off. The internal laser trip just meant a mouse or bug.....but if you had glass break or outer wall vibrations it meant someone was actually trying to get in. EVERYTHING would set off this ear drum breaking noise that got the attention of everyone. We had a couple buttons inside that would set off a silent alarm.......I didn't even know they were there until someone unplugged the counter it was attached to by accident and it set it off. In walked a group of officers that said our alarm was going off. I told them I was pretty sure it wasn't because it was impossible to be in the store at all with that thing blaring.

    I can't understand how ANY alarm can be set up so poorly that a silent alarm is set up to go off if a break in occurs and phone calls to the account holder aren't made.
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe the shop owner needs to update his alarm technology. Most high risk businesses would have a monitoring company, notified by satellite link; they would call the local police & a call-down list of everyone who should be notified: owner, manager, next door neighbor, etc.

    There have been several court cases: the police have no obligation to respond to an emergency call, even if a life is in jeopardy. But, they usually can be relied upon to take a report.

    Neal
  • bambihunterbambihunter Member Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Silent alarms have their place in security but I completely agree with Locust on this. The monitoring company (if they indeed pay for one) should have called every number they had on file. Some locales, particularly in town, require anyone with an alarm to either have a silent alarm, or it be monitored and able to shut off audible and visual alerts remotely.
    Where I work, we set up a fairly hidden silent alarm that is tied to several other systems. If these more sensitive detectors get tripped, it texts us, and starts recording on all cameras (vs just motion) as well as audio (usually doesn't record audio). Most of the time these are moths, paper fluttering with the AC, etc. However, we have recorded people with hands cupped against the outside windows probably trying to decide if there was anything worth a smash and grab.
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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, that is sorry police work. On the other hand, the cops get these alarms, morning noon, and night, and 96 percent of them are false alarms. So it is only natural for the cops to not be too energetic to answer.

    Your daughter should have had the alarm sent to her own phone. I know there are systems where you can have live pictures sent to your Iphone. If your daughter had this system, she could have called 911 and told the cops there are burglars in the store, Right Now!
    And the cops would have responded.
  • WearyTravelerWearyTraveler Member Posts: 2,019 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    dav1965 wrote:

    The detectives come in every day looking for anything stolen and then when she needs them no one comes at all.
    That?s the part that sux the most. When THEY need something or if it benefits THEM, they?re all over you. If not, can?t find them...
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  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,459 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I understand the cops get these alarms all the time, but it is a store that has/sells guns, that alone should have warranted a drive by in less than 2 days, as others have said though, I think the owner or your, daughter/manager should have also been notified in less time, gotta wonder did the cameras show anything?????
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,038 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Years ago, when I had my autoparts/speed shop store, my alarm system had an interesting feature.
    Now this was before the wide spread use of cell phones.
    The alarm system itself was set up to call local police and and my phone number. I had to record the messages on the alarm system myself. No central station needed.
    The trick thing was in case of a "push-in" type of robbery, If forced to disarm the system,
    you just used your id number that shut off the alarm, BUT you added the number 1 to the code. It then was silenced but it called the police that a ARMED robbery was in progress.
    If the system ever lost a dial tone for more than 2 minutes it would then set off the alarm bells.
    Pretty trick things for the "dark ages" of technology. :shock:
  • Quick&DeadQuick&Dead Member Posts: 1,466 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The alarm system where I worked sent a silent alarm to the PD dispatch center who also had the phone numbers of the employees whom they called right away to have them come to the store. The employees were called in order until one was reached.
    Also, the alarm system was linked to a very loud horn that also went off and could be heard 3 blocks away. That was very irritating to others that lived within the 'horn sound range' at night.
    In the two incidents someone actually got into the store, response time was never over 2.5 minutes. Then again, the cop shop was only 8 blocks away
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  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nothing like a good audible alarm...
    Quick&Dead wrote:
    The alarm system where I worked sent a silent alarm to the PD dispatch center who also had the phone numbers of the employees whom they called right away to have them come to the store. The employees were called in order until one was reached.
    Also, the alarm system was linked to a very loud horn that also went off and could be heard 3 blocks away. That was very irritating to others that lived within the 'horn sound range' at night.
    In the two incidents someone actually got into the store, response time was never over 2.5 minutes. Then again, the cop shop was only 8 blocks away
    :D
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  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Definitely time for an updated alarm. Hell the one I have at home notifies the police and sends me a text message and email as well as the same to my wife. And it works...as my sister in law found out last week when she opened the door to go outside before I had disabled the alarm ( she was visiting and forgot it was on when she wanted to go outside and have her coffee at 6am lol)
  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,938 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did the owner rob his own store?
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    nmyers wrote:
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    There have been several court cases: the police have no obligation to respond to an emergency call, even if a life is in jeopardy. But, they usually can be relied upon to take a report.

    Neal
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  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,059 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here I thought you picked up something on the cheap.

    As for her giving them her piece of the mind much respect.
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The mere fact it happened in New Jersey should explain everything.
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