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Next thing you know, there will be Tide Pods in the MREs.

WearyTravelerWearyTraveler Member Posts: 2,019 ✭✭✭
edited July 2019 in General Discussion
”People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
- GEORGE ORWELL -

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  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    not sure enlisting younger is the correct fix......though it seems many are more grown up earlier....on the other hand many still live at home in the early 20's and are allowed under parents insurance while in the early 20's ???.......maybe a study of this age groups maturity compared to Israel or some other nations that have an ongoing adversarial relationship with neighboring countries....????
  • WearyTravelerWearyTraveler Member Posts: 2,019 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know it?s a different age and scenario that we?re talking about, but we condemn countries that use child warriors. So we?re talking about semi-doing the same thing.

    Also - kids, at 16 - generally aren?t mature enough to handle that. And to listen. I was a Scoutmaster. Hell - they couldn?t even be depended upon to show up, let alone show up on time, in uniform and prepared...

    And this also goes back to the Vietnam era ?I can fight at 18 but cant vote till 21? mantra. Enlist at 16 but no smokes, vote, drink, own a gun till 18/21...

    I see nothing good coming of it.
    ”People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
    - GEORGE ORWELL -
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,496 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's a roundabout way to get the vote for teens, IMO. Because teens are overwhelmingly starry-eyed utopians.

    In reality, sixteeners are woefully immature, have not yet achieved their physical peak, and are in hormonal turmoil. It would be a VERY bad idea to allow them to enlist.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Big mistake IMO.
    RLTW

  • ProceramicProceramic Member Posts: 334
    edited November -1
    Yep,it'll bring in another voting block plus 16 year olds are that much easier to brainwash that they're fighting for "freedom" and not banking cartels and criminal politicians.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How ya gonna keep your BDUs and tighty whiteys clean without 'em? :lol:
  • Cornflk1Cornflk1 Member Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lets look at a mandatory draft for ALL , male and female. Everyone does military service or public service (old CCC program ) before they are 25 years old. You go to college, get a degree/ perform your civic duty, get a job, period. You don't go to college, learn a tech trade in the military, period.

    Several countries have this already in place.
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think it is a much better idea than to accept those who cant tell what sex they identify with.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    chiefr wrote:
    I think it is a much better idea than to accept those who cant tell what sex they identify with.


    I identify with sex. :D
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,496 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can still identify sex. From memory.

    Another strong vote for universal service, and I'll double down on the "If you decline, you forfeit any and all government assistance for life."
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • bearman49709bearman49709 Member Posts: 503
    edited November -1
    Just last week I was reading that both the Army and Marines are considering requiring all combat arms MOS's to have at least 6 years in service,be at least 26 Y.O. and be at least a E-5.
    I joined at 18, served 7 years 3months and 4 days and was only 25 when I got out, even as a E-5 I would not have been old enough to change my MOS to combat arms if was like that back then.
    How many people would stay that long in one MOS, be promoted to E-5 in their MOS then want to change to combat arms?
  • ltcdotyltcdoty Member Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I remember right, back in 1969 when I was stationed in the UK, they let boys enlist at sixteen. They would be trained in non combat arms...mechanics...cooks....that kind of stuff. Also I believed you enlisted in a particular regiment...if they'd take you.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,161 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Current teens aren't nearly as responsible or mature as teens of the 1950-1970 groups. I see this constantly since I have two 14 year old Grandsons. What I did w/o a blink at that age, these boys simply aren't prepared for(either physically or mentally) even though they grew up in basically opposite environments. One has lived a "city life" since he was 5 while the other has lived a rural life. One is in a "digital" household and the other in a "Bible thumper" setting but neither is ready to make "grownup decisions".
  • WearyTravelerWearyTraveler Member Posts: 2,019 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    An unintended consequence of recruiting and filling non combat roles with 16 year olds is that 18 year old recruits will be forced out of the non combat MOSs. Not every 18 year old wants to be a grunt. Some want technical fields. So - they?re going to lose some 18 year olds that want the IT field.
    ”People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
    - GEORGE ORWELL -
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