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I know very little

wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭
edited October 2019 in General Discussion
I know very little about M-1 carbines, but I'm trying. Last year after I missed getting Mr. Mikes beautiful carbine I got the itch. I found the bottom rifle at the Colorado Collectors show. The top one was a couple weeks ago at a garage show, no it wasn't a bargain. By buying these two lessons and with a lot of help and gifts from my good friend HeDog I'm starting to scratch the surface of the carbine world.

The top rifle is a National Postal Meter receiver and a IBM barrel with a Winchester stock. It is a 1943 model and has been through an arsenal. The bottom one is a Winchester receiver and an Inland barrel with a Winchester M-2 perch belly stock. There were ten main manufacturers of carbines and they all traded parts as they need them. It's a fun puzzle and I'm not much smarter. :)

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  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited October 2019
    forerunner concept of the M16. small, light, fast-handling carbine. later they would add the small caliber high velocity concept and say "we want something like..." the M16 was made out of aerospace materials, a departure from the M1, because they didn't want the Russians to duplicate it.
  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Personally not an M1 guy myself, but very nice indeed!!
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,375 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    nice
    congrats on the start of a quest
    they are neat little guns . fun to shoot and make a handy home defense gun
    I remember reading ( true or false or battle field rumors ) during the winter the heavy coats of the enemy would stop of prevent a kill when hit with it , but then again it did its share of damage in nicer weather, and was a " replacement for a handgun " from what I read any way .
    my 1st one was a universal bought at Woolworth for 69.00 ( yes it was some time ago )
    traded it off but found I wanted one later on in life , at a local a older fellow ( my age now :o ) GS fellow had two a winchester and a underwood both in nice shape he wanted 50.00 more for the winchester ( which I did not have ) I did take the underwood home and still have it that was about 20 years ago . I am thinking 250.00 I gave but honest can not recall
    I took it apart but at the time did not know how to check every part proof marks if I remember its mostly if not all underwood ,
    my youngest son has filed a claim on it next time I have it out ( twice a year I go thru and clean and wipe down the rifles ) I will just give it to him with all the extras I have picked up for it
  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,768 ******
    edited November -1
    Quote;I remember reading ( true or false or battle field rumors ) during the winter the heavy coats of the enemy would stop of prevent a kill when hit with it , but then again it did its share of damage in nicer weather, and was a " replacement for a handgun " from what I read any way .

    I was told a long time ago, maybe back in basic training, not sure but the "Wounded soldier put more exposed enemy presence on the battlefield and took out a lot more enemy resources than a dead soldier."
  • Cornflk1Cornflk1 Member Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Brookwood wrote:
    Quote;I remember reading ( true or false or battle field rumors ) during the winter the heavy coats of the enemy would stop of prevent a kill when hit with it , but then again it did its share of damage in nicer weather, and was a " replacement for a handgun " from what I read any way .

    I was told a long time ago, maybe back in basic training, not sure but the "Wounded soldier put more exposed enemy presence on the battlefield and took out a lot more enemy resources than a dead soldier."



    General Pattons quote. Better to wound than kill, it took four people to carry a casuality from the field, more resourses to transfer him to hospital, plus the added psychological aspect of his fellow troops listening to his screams.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    M1 Carbines are fun guns to shoot. There are so many variations and builders that made them Its a rare find to have an all matching gun and when you do they were more than likely to have been re-built that way.

    I have a Winchester and I consider it a fun play around gun. I would take it to a gun fight but it wouldn't be my 1st choice.

    I have found they are a little finicky with the aftermarket 30rd mags but do fine with the issue 15 rounders.

    Your 2 look much better than mine ;)
    RLTW

  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    We had some on the dcm program and the problem was the receivers would get shot out and fail...😊
    "What is truth?'
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    First full auto I shot was an M-2 back when a spam can of surplus ammo was about $20. Still at my #1 for the most fun in rockin roll mode.
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've always wanted an M1, but having no real use for it I have just never bought one.
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