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Calif. blackouts

Cornflk1Cornflk1 Member Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭
edited October 2019 in General Discussion
Sure is too bad that 800,000 k electrical consumers had to go without power. Guess that's what they get for wanting to live in a utopia :roll: With the states complete control over everything, they now want to blame the utility company for "poor management", California State legislature, why don't you allow proper brush and tree removal so wildfires don't burn down entire citys ???????

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  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,459 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    because if we can save one frog/lizard the people won't mind paying more and having to suffer for a few days...........
  • Ricci WrightRicci Wright Member Posts: 8,259 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    California is rapidly turning into a first rate third world country. A true worker's paradise.
  • bustedkneebustedknee Member Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It may be just me but something stinks in CA.

    Shut down the grid to prevent brush fires to prevent injuries and death.

    What kinds of injuries, deaths and other emergencies are created when there is no power?
    I can't believe they misspelled "Pork and Beans!"
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    why not trim the trees, limbs, brush away from the lines ????????????
  • WranglerWrangler Member Posts: 5,788
    edited November -1
    Heard the power companies decided to shut the power off because another power company went bankrupt because they were sued when power was left on during really high winds and the lines started a forest fire. The company was held liable and had to pay for a bunch of burned houses.

    Heard it over the water cooler, so take it with a grain of salt.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wrangler wrote:
    Heard the power companies decided to shut the power off because another power company went bankrupt because they were sued when power was left on during really high winds and the lines started a forest fire. The company was held liable and had to pay for a bunch of burned houses.

    Heard it over the water cooler, so take it with a grain of salt.

    Yes, this is why the power was secured.

    Sue the hand that feeds you, and act surprised when you go hungry. Makes a lot of sense.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • bustedkneebustedknee Member Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I highly suspect this is a political move.

    I live where 2 interstates cross and they pretty-much operate at capacity.

    Government wants to "enlarge" them but that requires more money than even the Clinton Foundation could steal in 10-years.

    So public awareness must be raised.
    Hmmmm, how do we do that?

    Lots of traffic slowdowns for maintenance, lane closures and full shutdowns everytime there is an accident. Get the voters upset so they will approve the $billions to "fix" the roads!

    Around here, we see a closure delay, on the average, 2 out of every 3 trips.

    My wife has doctor appointments in Roanoke and it has become quicker to take the slower sideroads and backroads.


    Sooooooo...I suspect the power moguls in CA are looking for money or at least a change in libility or maybe even enviromental laws.
    I can't believe they misspelled "Pork and Beans!"
  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,285 ******
    edited November -1
    You live near Woofville? (or as the Yankees call it?-Ythville.)
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wrangler wrote:
    Heard the power companies decided to shut the power off because another power company went bankrupt because they were sued when power was left on during really high winds and the lines started a forest fire. The company was held liable and had to pay for a bunch of burned houses.

    Heard it over the water cooler, so take it with a grain of salt.

    Yes, this is why the power was secured.

    Sue the hand that feeds you, and act surprised when you go hungry. Makes a lot of sense.


    Gov. Newsome calls that greed. There is no winning for PG&E.
  • dfletcherdfletcher Member Posts: 8,179 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    States choose what they do with their time and money. CA chooses to spend it supporting illegal aliens and ensuring its citizens use the politically correct pronoun when addressing a guy using the woman's restroom. Or, passing laws protecting birds and snakes to the extent a public utility company can't clear brush without all sorts of permission. CA CHOOSES to allow the conditions to exist that make wildfires possible.

    I live in northern CA and have a home in southern Oregon. Guess which state clears its brush and requires its citizens to do likewise? It isn't the "5th largest economy in the world" and no surprise - it is the state that doesn't regularly have millions of acres burn to a crisp.

    The same people have run CA for decades. CA citizens keep voting them in. My sympathy level is very low for anyone who suffers as a result of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the news this morning, a man dependent on his oxygen generator died 12 minutes after the power was cut. The power company will say they gave him adequate warning and the state will shrug and say it's not their fault, but the man's family attorney will likely smile and file.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Quick&DeadQuick&Dead Member Posts: 1,466 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have visited California a number of times back in the 80's mostly.

    I wouldn't go back there for anything these days and sadly some that I know who live there are so far from true reality, it's unbelievable.

    My wish is the people in California just stay there and live/enjoy the mess they have created. Don't infect other states with your mindlessness.

    The government has no rights. Only the people have rights which empowers the government.
    We have enough gun laws, what we need is IDIOT control.
    Blood makes you related. Loyalty makes you family.

    I thought getting old would take longer. :shock:
  • bustedkneebustedknee Member Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    jimdeere wrote:
    You live near Woofville? (or as the Yankees call it?-Ythville.)

    Yep, Woof'ille (Wytheville).
    Actually, I'm about 20 miles from town...near the shot tower. Wave as you drive by.
    I can't believe they misspelled "Pork and Beans!"
  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    With California earthquakes, mudslides, droughts, forest fires and blackouts then who would want to live there other Than Democrats, Hollywood's actors and silicon valley egg heads. The government is ultra liberal and mostly snowflakes that makes the icing on the mud pie there.

    They say the climate is mild and the scenery is breath taking however the land is too expensive and taxes are outrageous and gun ownership is a burden to exercise. They can keep it and succeed from the union as far as I care.

    serf
  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,285 ******
    edited November -1
    bustedknee wrote:
    jimdeere wrote:
    You live near Woofville? (or as the Yankees call it?-Ythville.)

    Yep, Woof'ille (Wytheville).
    Actually, I'm about 20 miles from town...near the shot tower. Wave as you drive by.
    Beautiful country down that way.
  • gruntled2gruntled2 Member Posts: 560 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    dfletcher wrote:
    States choose what they do with their time and money. CA chooses to spend it supporting illegal aliens and ensuring its citizens use the politically correct pronoun when addressing a guy using the woman's restroom. Or, passing laws protecting birds and snakes to the extent a public utility company can't clear brush without all sorts of permission. CA CHOOSES to allow the conditions to exist that make wildfires possible.

    I live in northern CA and have a home in southern Oregon. Guess which state clears its brush and requires its citizens to do likewise? It isn't the "5th largest economy in the world" and no surprise - it is the state that doesn't regularly have millions of acres burn to a crisp.

    The same people have run CA for decades. CA citizens keep voting them in. My sympathy level is very low for anyone who suffers as a result of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

    What makes you think the voters are CITIZENS? Why do you think they keep importing & protecting all the illegals they can find?
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rocky Raab wrote:
    In the news this morning, a man dependent on his oxygen generator died 12 minutes after the power was cut. The power company will say they gave him adequate warning and the state will shrug and say it's not their fault, but the man's family attorney will likely smile and file.

    So we're establishing a Constitutional right to electricity? I wonder what, if any alternatives this man had in place for any other power outage? I'm sure some crappy california jury will have no problem sticking it to the power company. PG&E might as well cut the check and pass it on to their customers.
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It started with the State mandating that PG&E had to widen their right of ways to the tune of millions. The State in their infinite incompetence, didn't take into account the landowners, tree huggers, and the massive cost.
    PG&E petitioned the State to handle the first two, and fund some of the third. A Bill was drawn up, and passed unanimously by both sides (that could be a first) and Moonbeam Jerry Brownstain, vetoed the Bill. He had already looted the funds where that money would have come from.
    You'll have to really dig to find any of that in the news, liberal media has buried it.
    PG&E was already widening the right of ways where they could, when the Santa Rosa fire hit. Brownstain got caught between a rock and a hard spot. He didn't want the veto story front and center, and he didn't want the public to know, that cartel paid illegals started almost all those fires in pot grow areas. The place where one fire started that PG&E was found at fault, was where a tree fell into the lines. It was on property that there was a landowner/tree hugger dispute.
    Try to find that story now, it's been wiped from the internet, along with the story about one of the illegals that was caught red handed lighting one of those fires. He was placed in the Sonoma City jail, which just happened to be a sanctuary city. ICE wanted him in a bad way, and they wouldn't turn him over. That news has vanished as well.
    Shortly after the SR fire, the State once again mandated, that PG&E had to shut down power in fire danger areas when winds reached a certain speed. They knew the winds were going way above that in the Paradise area. They refused PG&E's request to start shutting down until the wind speed reach the turn off point.
    If you just flip the Off switch on transmission lines, it fries the grid, costing millions to repair. Instead of a day without power, it might be months. By the time PG&E got the power off, wind speeds had doubled, and the fire added speed to the wind as well.
    Tree huggers made it impossible for home owners to clear a fire safety zone around their properties. Those areas of Paradise that burnt to the ground, had large pine trees growing 2ft from the houses. Add to that, the whole area was covered in a thick mat of pine needles and Manzanita brush. A plastic jug of gas would have had a better chance.
    The PUC started PG&E's decline when they forced them to sell power at half the cost to produce it! Before that, for a couple of decades PG&E nation wide, rated the highest in service, best utility stock, and the lowest rates. Then guberment took over.
    From what I've seen in the last 48hrs, I think this has been a political power play by PG&E, to wake people up to what Sacramento is doing since the media buries it. Sacramento has done everything in their power to destroy a private business, so they can buy it up cheap with taxpayer money, and we all know how well guberment runs a business.
    Might be a complete fail though, you just can't fix stupid.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,529 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    And now the price of gas has doubled because they can't plug in their electric cars... :lol::lol: Careful what you wish for because it might come true... :o
  • Quick&DeadQuick&Dead Member Posts: 1,466 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yup, leave it to happen in California.

    They are so with the clean enviornment, they push everyone to get an electric car.


    THEN THEY TURN THE POWER OFF!


    :lol::lol::lol:
    The government has no rights. Only the people have rights which empowers the government.
    We have enough gun laws, what we need is IDIOT control.
    Blood makes you related. Loyalty makes you family.

    I thought getting old would take longer. :shock:
  • bustedkneebustedknee Member Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I heard a rumor through the grapevine (internet) that a terrorist group had acquired a weapons grade laser and were scheduled to "wreck havoc" in that time period in that area of CA. So a major power shutdown averted disaster.

    That actually makes more sense to me than their cover story.
    I can't believe they misspelled "Pork and Beans!"
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