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Snake!

allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,692 ✭✭✭✭
edited October 2019 in General Discussion
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I saw this little guy in the yard today. He is about 12 inches long.


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I am calling it a corn snake.
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  • Edspdog1Edspdog1 Member Posts: 225 ✭
    edited November -1
    Brown shorts snake :mrgreen:
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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The corn snake looks a lot like a copperhead, and we do have copperheads up here. I have a little dog and don't want her to get bitten.
    However I made the call, corn snake, and I let the little guy go. I hate to kill any of god's creatures if I don't have to.
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  • HessianHessian Member Posts: 248 ✭
    edited November -1
    It looks more like a King Snake to me. Typical King Snake markings, red (ish), black stripe, light stripe, black stripe, red (ish) stripe. But they come in all sorts of colors (species).

    King Snakes are protected. "Red on black, friend of Jack; red on yellow, kill a fellow." A rhyme to help remember the difference between a kingsnake and a Coral snake-

    Could be a Corn Snake, the markings can be similar.
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  • varianvarian Member Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    id say king snake also. good to have around, hard to get one of those to bite.
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  • Edspdog1Edspdog1 Member Posts: 225 ✭
    edited November -1
    Yes it is a king snake. Rarely ever see one. Last one I ran into was about 4 feet up on a vine covered post. Brown shorts.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Red milk snake. Lampropeltis triangulum Same genus as the king snakes, but not considered a king, as there are other larger kingsnakes also occurring in the range of the milk snakes. They will eat small rodents and small lizards, along with the occasional other snake.
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  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,059 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hessian wrote:
    It looks more like a King Snake to me. Typical King Snake markings, red (ish), black stripe, light stripe, black stripe, red (ish) stripe. But they come in all sorts of colors (species).

    King Snakes are protected. "Red on black, friend of Jack; red on yellow, kill a fellow." A rhyme to help remember the difference between a kingsnake and a Coral snake-

    Could be a Corn Snake, the markings can be similar.

    Reminds me of the Mountain "Tri" King. I knew a guy in Pacific Grove who used to go hunt for them. I do remember dude charged $125 a pop and that was like 20 years ago.
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  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Corn snake. Kinda rare now days in my neck of the woods.

    I older days when people stored corn bins these snakes were more common and welcome because they kept the mice thinned out.

    I seen a thread on here somewhere about a guy that was having rodent (mice) problems in his RV's. If he could get few (10 or 12) of these and put them in his RV, no mice. ;) Just keep a heads up and don't get any copperheads in the mix. They have a bad temper. :o

    Here is a link to some pic's of the snake.

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=corn+snake+pictures&form=PRUSEN&pc=UE13&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&refig=2c9716aec04d4124a550b36aca8faa2e&sp=3&qs=SC&pq=orn+snake&sk=PRES1SC2&sc=8-9&cvid=2c9716aec04d4124a550b36aca8faa2e
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  • bustedkneebustedknee Member Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am a snake expert.
    (Well I can be a snake expert if I want! Everyone else is a gun expert!)

    That is a rattlesnake!

    Be very cautious as you "dispose" of it.
    I can't believe they misspelled "Pork and Beans!"
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Okie743 wrote:
    Corn snake. Kinda rare now days in my neck of the woods.

    I older days when people stored corn bins these snakes were more common and welcome because they kept the mice thinned out.

    I seen a thread on here somewhere about a guy that was having rodent (mice) problems in his RV's. If he could get few (10 or 12) of these and put them in his RV, no mice. ;) Just keep a heads up and don't get any copperheads in the mix. They have a bad temper. :o

    Here is a link to some pic's of the snake.

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=corn+snake+pictures&form=PRUSEN&pc=UE13&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&refig=2c9716aec04d4124a550b36aca8faa2e&sp=3&qs=SC&pq=orn+snake&sk=PRES1SC2&sc=8-9&cvid=2c9716aec04d4124a550b36aca8faa2e


    Wrong ID, it is a red milk snake, I promise. I have never seen one even 20" long,
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  • Aztngundoc22Aztngundoc22 Member Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK :

    Only Good Snake is a Dead Snake !!!!!!!!!

    Thanks !!!
    The more people I meet : The more I like my Dog :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


    I Grew Old Too Fast (And Smart Too damn Slow !!!) !!! :o :?
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  • HessianHessian Member Posts: 248 ✭
    edited November -1
    I hunted Snakes in the Southwest, not real familiar with those farther east. A lot of Snakes are closely related but are regionally different. They evolve sometimes quicker than you'd think.

    I caught Rattlers for the UCLA biology and medical center (used to be right next to each other joined by a sky bridge). I was told they needed Rattlers pretty much constantly because the venom evolved. Pay was good, a couple of hours in the morning and I could make $120, good money back then.

    Snakes sometimes crossbreed (hybrids) and as the local fauna evolved and became resistant to the venom the snakes evolved with a different venom. Nature rewards success. Kingsnakes are immune to most venom. but only locally, move them a hundred miles and the resistance is weaker.

    One of my richest hunting grounds was right next to a golf course. The golf course was right next to arid semi-desert. Rabbits liked the grass and the Rattlers liked the Rabbits and other Rodents. I was amazed more Golfers didn't get Snake bitten looking for lost golf balls. I'd catch them early morning when it was the coolest and the Rattlers were somewhat torpid. I had a dog that could smell them and localized them for me.
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  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Are they related to corn monkeys???
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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    red milk snake


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    my snake. Don't ever argue with He Dog about snakes.

    What in the world I never heard of a milk snake. I thought it was a corn snake.
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  • dpmuledpmule Member Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    By heck, he's not even long enough to make a good hatband.
    But would be a pretty one.


    Mule
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  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,768 ******
    edited November -1
    Around here we have those red milk snakes. Quite common actually. All my life we called them "spotted adders" but that was just a boyhood thing started by one of my older brothers. They are quite beautiful and if you turn them on their backs, their bellies are checkered like the flag at the finish line! Also not the most friendly non-poisonous snake and they do have a pretty good grip when they bite! Had a beagle with one attached to his dangling ear and I had to apply some pressure behind its mouth to release.

    They also get fairly good sized here when mature.
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  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Whatever it is (and I'd go with the expert he dog's call) that's a gorgeous animal. I like snakes, and have all my life. I know that lots of people have an atavistic aversion to them, but they really are highly beneficial to us humans. We'd be up to our butts in rodents without them.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rocky they are beneficial to us, even most of the individual venomous snakes do us more good than harm even in countries were bites are much more common than here. That point of view is pretty biblical to me. I prefer to think they have at least as much right to be here as we do, and perhaps by virtue of seniority the right to be here unmolested by us.

    Allen, I am surprised you have not seen the milk snakes even in a book. The tricolored members of the genus range from much of the US into South America in a variety of species and subspecies many of which are banded instead of saddled. They are prized by snake keepers and many have been bred in captivity for sale to other snake fanciers (more the banded than milk snake types). We bred the local subspecies a number of times and generations and displayed them here. Breeding was pretty easy compared to finding the original breeders. That took me years.
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