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Marlin lever action JM stamp?

Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
edited October 2019 in General Discussion
When exactly was the JM stamp discontinued? What does it mean in terms of quality?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/836850672 < < $625 opening bid newer model with safety button edit > sold for $5 over opening bid.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/838976250 < < 1976 model with aftermarket peep sight, penny start

Both have JM stamp. Will the much older gun hit 4 figures?
I used to recruit for the NRA until they sold us down the river (again!) in Heller v. DC. See my auctions (if any) under username henryreilly
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  • savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,569 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Remington took over Marlin 2007 and the qauilty soon went down I have seen a few Marlins assembled up to 2009 with the JM stamp as they used up existing inventory
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  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,459 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    never owned one of the older ones, but I have a new remington made 1894, 357, lever action, it is as smooth as can be, eats 38's and 357's without a hiccup, can even mix em in same tube, not the purtiest wood but it is a hunting gun not a wallhanger, I can't complain about mine......
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  • Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    hillbille wrote:
    1894, 357, lever action,

    That's been on my wish list for a long time. Way back when a guy that hung out at the gun shop got one. He is notorious for buying and trading and not keeping anything for very long. I told him I wanted the 357. He traded it off to someone else and when I called him on it he said he was concerned I couldn't afford to buy it and that it wasn't accurate.

    My finances were none of his concern and I'm guessing the accuracy issue was operator related and not inherent to the gun.
    I used to recruit for the NRA until they sold us down the river (again!) in Heller v. DC. See my auctions (if any) under username henryreilly
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  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,459 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Henry0Reilly wrote:
    hillbille wrote:
    1894, 357, lever action,

    That's been on my wish list for a long time. Way back when a guy that hung out at the gun shop got one. He is notorious for buying and trading and not keeping anything for very long. I told him I wanted the 357. He traded it off to someone else and when I called him on it he said he was concerned I couldn't afford to buy it and that it wasn't accurate.

    My finances were none of his concern and I'm guessing the accuracy issue was operator related and not inherent to the gun.
    I got mine for the grandkids to deerhunt with, it doesn't kick anymore than a 22lr, with the 38's, and the 357's are just a little louder, I read the ballistics are almost even with 30-30 out to 100 yards, I would keep the kids to under 75 mostly 50 yards or so around here, I have shot 2 nice 8pts with it, it is light and handles great with a reddot, makes a good brush gun when driving in heavy brush..... bet the kids have shot 800-1000 rounds out of it, in the last few years, especially when 22lr was impossible to find I could reload for about $7 a 100, so it was as cheap or cheaper than 22lr at the time.......

    bad thing is the last few years the prices have gone through the roof, I got a henry to begin with it was even smoother, personally as a shooter it was better, but for kid it was just to heavy, and even for me it would be like lugging a block through the woods all day, that is the only bad thing I have to say about the henry, most don't like the loading tube, but I prefered it, you could take the rod out of the tube and dump all the rounds out at once, instead of having to lever each one out. but they have a weird hangover mount for any type of scope/redot and price is usually higher than newer marlins.. if you reload they make great plinkers if you can find one reasonable you won't regret it
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  • Ricci WrightRicci Wright Member Posts: 8,259 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Around 18 months ago a customer ordered a model 1894 Marlin .44 mag. online. A new Remington made gun, it showed up and when you cocked the gun the hammer was hanging up and you could not close the lever unless you cocked the hammer down manually. How did it get shipped this way?? Sent the gun to Remington to be repaired and a few weeks later the gun was returned. Guess what?? The same exact problem. Every time the gun was cocked it locked open. I called Remington customer service and asked the guy how in hell the gun left Remington not once but twice in the condition it was in. His reply? "I don't know". That was it. He expressed no surprise what so ever. The customer demanded Remington buy the gun back and they did. I am not saying I would never buy a new REM-MARLIN but I would want to give it a very close examination first.
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  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    IMO the pre safety will bring more than the newer model, as they almost always do, but I don't see $1000 as the final price, maybe 800ish. If it was a 357/38 then I'd say a grand since the 38/357's always seem to bring more than the 44's. The JM stamp stopped in 2009 when big "R" purchased the company. The last few Marlins that left had the serial number on the side of the receiver like the new Remlins do, but still had a JM stamp on the barrel and no MR serial number prefix. I just picked up a nice little 1894 in 45 Colt last week and it runs like a champ. I have the 357/38, 41, 44 and 45, now I need to find me a 44-40..
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  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Neither one will go to four figures. The .44 mag is a very popular version of this rifle though so someone may want it that bad. I have one in .44 mag, 45-70, .35 Rem, 30-30, .22 also .... all JM ( pre Remington ).
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  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've still got my 2 old Marlins. The one on top in the photos belonged to great grandpa, it's a model 1889 .38-40 that was made in 1893 and has been in the family 126 years. I remember looking at it hanging in my uncles gun rack all though the 50's and 60s when I was a kid. He died in 1999 and I inherited it.

    I went to my uncle's funeral in Jackson, MS and the next day when I returned home to Montgomery, AL my aunt called me and said she had forgot to mention to me at the funeral yesterday that your uncle wanted you to have all of his guns when he died. She said the next time you come down you can pick them up. She didn't seem to surprised at about the time she hung up the phone to find me pulling into her driveway. :D

    The other gun in the photos is a 1894 .44 Mag. made in the 70s.

    I've used them both in SASS matches and they both shot very well. Never had any failures to feed or eject.


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  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Marlin sold out to Remington in 2007. When they closed the plant, Remington only took a few of their quality gun makers with them. Soon, the guns were produced under the Remington name. The quality soon went down hill. The fit to finish was subpar. Meaning, where the wood matched up to the metal, there were gaps, bulging and so on. Remington only bought the name, not the quality. They pump them out , without any quality control, as it was not their main source of revenue. Mechanical problems also occurred. Levers not working properly, sites misaligned, and so on. Anything with the Rem stamp on it, is mostly lesser quality than the JM stamp. I wouldn't touch a REM stamped Marlin. JMHO.
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  • Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The newer rifle sold for $5 more than the opening bid, $630.

    I'm hoping Kasey does a lot better with the old one.
    I used to recruit for the NRA until they sold us down the river (again!) in Heller v. DC. See my auctions (if any) under username henryreilly
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  • Aztngundoc22Aztngundoc22 Member Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK :

    I got 2 with the JM stamps : a 30-30 & a .22 cal. :::

    Really like them older Marlins :

    Thanks !!!
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  • Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My grandpa had a 39A Mountie, which isn't quite the same thing as a 39M.
    I used to recruit for the NRA until they sold us down the river (again!) in Heller v. DC. See my auctions (if any) under username henryreilly
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