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Ohio deer hunters?

SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
edited October 2019 in General Discussion
My niece and and her husband are living in Columbus while he is getting a doctorate degree. Anyway he would like to start hunting and I've told him I would help get him started. My questions is, if I understand correctly a rifle in .44 mag would be legal to use on deer is Ohio, is this correct? I know slug guns are legal and I can get him a slug barrel for his shotgun (IIRC an 870) but would rather put him on a single shot slug gun or a .44 mag single shot.

The .44 mag is lighter and ammo isn't as expensive as good sabot slugs. The single shot is all a man needs to deer hunt and it is handier when using tree stands than a repeater is. I've thought about getting one for myself, but I've already got several slug guns and a life time supply of slugs.

Thanks

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  • bambihunterbambihunter Member Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/hunting-trapping-and-shooting-sports/hunting-trapping-regulations/allowable-hunting-equipment

    Official requirements:
    Gun Season and Youth Gun Season

    Shotgun: 10 gauge or smaller shotgun using one ball or one rifled slug per barrel (rifled shotgun barrels are permitted when using shotgun slug ammunition).

    Muzzleloading rifle: .38 caliber or larger.

    Muzzleloading shotgun: 10 gauge or smaller using one ball per barrel.

    Handgun: With 5-inch minimum length barrel, using straight-walled cartridges .357 caliber or larger. The barrel is measured from the front of the cylinder or chamber to the end of the barrel.

    Straight-walled cartridge rifles in the following calibers: All straight-walled cartridge calibers from a minimum of .357 to a maximum of .50. Shotguns and straight-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined.

    Archery equipment: See Archery Season, above.

    Muzzleloader Season

    Muzzleloading Rifle: .38 caliber or larger.

    Muzzleloading shotgun: 10 gauge or smaller using one ball per barrel.
    Fanatic collector of the 10mm auto.
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well there we go. I thought I had read that sometime. I'm glad you posted the text I had forgot about the 3 shot capacity limit. Not much of an issue since if I go I'll be using a single shot anyway. But could have been an issue if I get him a barrel for his repeater. Of course I'll get a regulation book and look through it, but I was wanting to bid on a .44 mag rifle today, and I have.

    thanks
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    45-70

    or

    a 10 gauge 3.5" magnum with a slug :shock:

    Gauge: 10
    Length: 3 1/2"
    Slug Type: Hollow Point
    Grains: 766
    Velocity (FPS): 1,280
    Muzzle Energy (Ft. / Lbs.): 2,785 Holy cow!

    He won't need to worry about the deer getting up and horning him :lol:
    RLTW

  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One reason for the .44 mag is it is also a legal cartridge here in Indiana for both private and public lands. The 45-70 isn't. The 10ga however is, but, though recoil generally doesn't bother me that much I would not look forward to lining a 10ga slug gun up, I like the kid, but I don't know him that well.
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Own a Ruger .44mag Carbine. Mounted with a Simmons Pro series (4 power?) Diamond reticle shotgun scope. (Loads 4 rounds in the tube mag.)

    Why go with a "Single shot?" Or is that what is dictated for use?

    In my decades of hunting I've seldom had to shoot a deer twice and when it did happen I can load a single shot pretty quick, so a repeater is not much of an advantage. I've shot multiple deer in quick order several times with a single shot firearm. A single shot is handy to load and unload as needed when climbing into tree stands, crossing fences, rough ground, getting in and out of a truck or off of a 4 wheeler, etc. With the transfer bar it's as safe a system as can be hunted with, even if you drop it out of your stand while cocked it would be hard to make it fire. Safety, convenience, dependability, and to some extent up front cost.

    I've hunted with repeaters, in fact the last few years it's been with a bolt action rifle, but most of the deer I've killed have been with a single shot. Of the .44 mag repeaters I prefer a lever action but was looking at a Ruger semi-auto carbine recently myself, always wanted one. I do prefer a single shot eject the shell on opening but I've hunted with ones that didn't, my Thompson Encore pistol doesn't eject but that didn't keep me from shooting a buck and doe combo when they came by. Could I have occasionally shot a second or third deer I didn't get if I had had a repeater instead of a single shot, sure, but that's not that important to me really.

    I've got my choice of several shotguns with rifled barrels to take when using slugs, but generally I take a single shot.
  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,459 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    to each their own, but I personally never could understand buying a single shot when nowdays unless you get a really good deal, you can buy a bolt or lever gun for same price, also a rifled 870 barrel should be just as accurate to 100+ and half the price, I allways liked having that second shot just in case, never know what you may run into in the woods bear, bobcat, crackhead...........
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ithaca Road-blocker 10ga semi auto.


    You can derail a train with that stuffed full of 10ga 3.5" slugs ;)

    Or buckshot, you get 18 pellets of 00 buck in the 3.5" magnum shell. 3 shells in the gun that is 54 pellets down range.

    I wish I had one for these darn beavers.
    RLTW

  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,459 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sam06 wrote:
    Ithaca Road-blocker 10ga semi auto.


    You can derail a train with that stuffed full of 10ga 3.5" slugs ;)

    Or buckshot, you get 18 pellets of 00 buck in the 3.5" magnum shell. 3 shells in the gun that is 54 pellets down range.

    I wish I had one for these darn beavers.

    you don't think 10ga is a bit to much recoil for a beaver???? better get em a synthetic stock too, doubt wood would last very long.......
  • RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sam06 wrote:
    Ithaca Road-blocker 10ga semi auto.


    You can derail a train with that stuffed full of 10ga 3.5" slugs ;)

    Or buckshot, you get 18 pellets of 00 buck in the 3.5" magnum shell. 3 shells in the gun that is 54 pellets down range.

    I wish I had one for these darn beavers.


    Had a Remington SP10 that is pretty much the same gun as the Ithaca Mag10. Great on turkey and geese. Also very soft shooting but man was it heavy.
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    RobOz wrote:
    Sam06 wrote:
    Ithaca Road-blocker 10ga semi auto.


    You can derail a train with that stuffed full of 10ga 3.5" slugs ;)

    Or buckshot, you get 18 pellets of 00 buck in the 3.5" magnum shell. 3 shells in the gun that is 54 pellets down range.

    I wish I had one for these darn beavers.


    Had a Remington SP10 that is pretty much the same gun as the Ithaca Mag10. Great on turkey and geese. Also very soft shooting but man was it heavy.

    Most guys anymore are using a 3.5" 12ga but some are still using the 10ga and the Ithaca is common as well as the SP10, which, like you said, is the same gun. I've used an Ithaca 10ga a couple of times. Once pass shooting geese and another time on cranes. It wasn't mine, a guy in SD loaned it to me as all I had with me was a 2 3/4" Ithaca 37. Like you said, it's heavy, but man will it make feathers rain from the sky.
  • badchrisbadchris Member Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    45-70 & 44 mag is what most folks are using around me, but still plenty of deer being harvested with 357 mag & 2 3/4? slugs.
    Enemies of armed self-defense focus on the gun. They ignore the person protected with that gun.
  • bustedkneebustedknee Member Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Take the nephew-in-law shooting a few times. Expose him to the guns that are acceptable.

    I'm betting, we will all be surprised what he picks. And his reasons.



    Without asking her first, a buddy bought his wife a 338 magnum (he hunted with a 375 RUM).
    He was so proud that she had a beautifully engraved 338 just like his beautifully engraved 375 RUM.
    We took her to the range. She sat down at the bench to fire it the first time, The bullet was on the paper. She muttered something under her breath then fired her second (and last) shot. The dust flew several feet to the left of the target. She stood without speaking then starting walking home.
    I can't believe they misspelled "Pork and Beans!"
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Talked to the kid this morning. Turns out he has a Mossberg 500 pump gun. So I'll just order him a cantilever mount rifled barrel for it. I'm about done with mossberg but if that's what he has I guess I can by one more barrel. I have some scopes around so I'll mount something on it and help him line it up.

    He knows nothing but wants to hunt. I told him to get his hunter ed course done and to pick up a hunting license and we would go out and shoot some squirrels and scout for deer sign. I'll have to pick up a non-resident Ohio license and look for public ground.

    I gave him the best advise I could. Get a good pair of boots, some warm clothes and get in the woods. It's not complicated, you just have to put your boots on the ground and get started.

    I've ordered him a 3 bladed deer knife and have a pack and other stuff already I'll give to him. I enjoy helping people get started, it's fun for me
  • badchrisbadchris Member Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Enemies of armed self-defense focus on the gun. They ignore the person protected with that gun.
  • badchrisbadchris Member Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Enemies of armed self-defense focus on the gun. They ignore the person protected with that gun.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Turns out he has a Mossberg 500 pump gun. So I'll just order him a cantilever mount rifled barrel for it.

    Those are a nice set up.

    There a bunch of them for sale on the Auction side

    A nice small set of Bino's are good to have.

    Sharpener for his knife and you will probably have to show him how to use it.

    Most youngsters today aren't very handy with anything but a smart phone.

    You are doing a good deed, I hope he appreciates it.
    RLTW

  • bambihunterbambihunter Member Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    SCOUT5 wrote:
    Talked to the kid this morning. Turns out he has a Mossberg 500 pump gun. So I'll just order him a cantilever mount rifled barrel for it. I'm about done with mossberg but if that's what he has I guess I can by one more barrel. I have some scopes around so I'll mount something on it and help him line it up.

    I assume that holds more than 3 by default so don't forget the migratory bird 3 shot plug as the regulations mentioned. Best of luck.
    Fanatic collector of the 10mm auto.
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for all the input fellas.

    Thanks for mentioning the 3 round limit I had read that in the past but need to look over the regs again. I've been looking at the maps posted and it looks like there's some ground SE of Columbus a man may hunt.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    FWIW, I hunt with an Encore 45-70 using 300JHP's and a 450 Bushmaster with 250FTX's. Deer fall down.
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bpost wrote:
    FWIW, I hunt with an Encore 45-70 using 300JHP's and a 450 Bushmaster with 250FTX's. Deer fall down.

    I thought about the bushmaster as that is legal in Indiana as well. The 45-70 is only legal here on private property and not on public lands. As he'll be (hopefully) hunting both states in the future that matters. We'll get him started with the slug gun and he can see what else he may want.
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