FOOTBALL: What the CFP, ESPN, and Pollsters won't tell you!

kimi

More college football stats, plus the biggest kept secret that the majority of all College Football Playoff committee members, ESPN sports analysts, and AP pollsters don't want you to know about the BIG-12 football conference. For example, they bray about Oklahoma having an UGLY LOSS to Kansas State last week in a VERY CLOSE game...but they won't tell you that K-State's strength of schedule is the 11th toughest schedule of all within the Power 5 Conferences, and that the BIG-12 conference has the toughest of all strength of schedule average. Here are the facts based on Jeff Sagarin's college football ratings: (The lower the number the stronger the strength of schedule is):

(If you see an error, let me know and I'll correct it!)

BIG-12 Conference
Okla 41
Baylor 58
Iowa State 6
Okla State 7
Tex 14
KSt 11
TCU 8
TT 36
WVA 9
KS 37

Avg 26

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SEC West Div

LSU 13
Alabama 54
Aub 2
Ms St 3
Tex AM 60
Ms 46
Ark 50


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SEC East Div

Ga 52
Fla 17
Tn 35
Mo 63
Sc 12
Ky 38
Vanderbilt 15

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BIG TEN EAST

Oh St 34
Penn St 23
Mich 22
Mich St 10
Ind 96
Md 18
Rutgers 39

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BIG TEN WEST

Wisc 32
Ia 26
Mn 70
Ill 61
NW 1
Neb 51
Purdue 44

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Pac-12 North
Or 30
Wa 28
Wa St 49
Ca 21
Stanford 16
Or St 25

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Pac 12 South
Utah 47
USC 4
Az St 83
UCLA 29
Co 24
Az 48

Avg 39
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ACC Atlantic

Clemson 71
Fla St 43
Louisville 20
BC 68
Nc St 67
Syracuse 65
WF 80

Avg 59
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ACC Coastal

Miami 55
Va 57
Pitt 53
Va Tech 72
Nc 19
Duke 40
Ga Tech 42

Avg 48

Smitty500mag

The main thing you failed to mention is that the SEC has won the National Championship 9 out of the last 12 years. The only poll or stat that counts is the last one. All the other BS is just BS!

kimi

Smitty500mag wrote:

The main thing you failed to mention is that the SEC has won the National Championship 9 out of the last 12 years. The only poll or stat that counts is the last one. All the other BS is just BS!

I'm not into citing what is COMMON knowledge like you apparently seem to be. If that were the case I'd remind you that Alabama has a DISMAL head to head record with Texas...the Horns winning 7 games to 2. What I was trying to do was make what certainly appears to be a bias exhibited toward the BIG-12 by CFP committee members, ESPN analysts, and a lot of AP pollsters, for example, as I noted...that's all.

BTW...thank you for your subjective opinion!!!!

Smitty500mag

kimi wrote:

BTW...thank you for your subjective opinion!!!!

No need for thanks, that's what I'm here for. It's all about commitment and giving back to the community.

Junkballer

Smitty500mag wrote:

The main thing you failed to mention is that the SEC has won the National Championship 9 out of the last 12 years. The only poll or stat that counts is the last one. All the other BS is just BS!

I agree 100%, all one has to do is look at the teams played in a division.......a regularly bottom ranked team in the SEC would most likely be a dominating force year in and year out in any other division. Is there bias...sure as in everything but like Smitty said the Championship is the final poll.

allen griggs

Ohio State is number 1? Yeah, right.

I remember, year after year, these hotshot top ranked Big Ten or Big Twelve teams come down south for the big bowl game, and get their * whipped by an SEC team.

bambihunter

I think the top couple of SEC teams are good. The rest, not any different than other conferences. I will say that several years SEC got multiple bids into the playoffs. I don't think that has ever happened with another conference. That certainly helps the odds. I do 100% believe their is media bias in sports just as their is in politics. Some of it may be deserved, but not all.

The SEC (and ACC) also plays 8 game conference versus 9 game conference schedule like everyone else. This year ALA schedule is a joke. At least LSU played a reputable non-conference game.

Meh, it doesn't matter. I think sports is like politics. No one is going to change their opinion by listening to another person. It is only when it is driven into your head day in and day out via the media does the perception stick. I won't name the player or team, but there was a player whom I had watched in his college days. He was decent and went on to the NBA. After quite a few years there, making very little impact, the team they played for went to the playoffs. One game he got injured and the announcers kept talking him up. Well, he came back a few games later and it was humorous to see all the fans praise him, holding up signs, chanting his name, etc. Just a few years ago they didn't even know his name. After that season, he was traded. But, thanks to some TV praise during a game that we had poor play from his rookie replacement he was a hero.

kimi

allen griggs wrote:

Ohio State is number 1? Yeah, right.

I remember, year after year, these hotshot top ranked Big Ten or Big Twelve teams come down south for the big bowl game, and get their * whipped by an SEC team.

Yeah, but you seem to forget all too easily that teams like Texas, who had been beaten like an unwanted red-headed stepchild took their 9 and 4 BIG-12 record to the Sugar Bowl and Beat your vaunted Georgia Bulldogs who were 11 and 2, too. So it goes both way, Allen. Just like the BIG-12's bowl record against SEC teams last year was three wins and one loss! Hmmm?