Poachers and Trespassers

Sam06

I caught a Trespasser this morning in a tree stand on my property. He was hunting with a crossbow no orange. He also had a handgun, it looked like an XD.

I was armed with a USP 45 I have come to really like and my 2 dogs.

I let him know he was on my property, which is posted and easy to see its posted. I told him he was required to wear hunter orange even in a tree stand and I told him I didn't think it was legal to have a handgun while bow hunting(I am not sure if its gun season here in NC yet). I also told him that hunting on public land(He was about 200yds from some) was restricted on Sunday.

You can see my house from where he was with the leaves down. I knew someone was in the woods because his truck was parked on the road. I went out and just started looking around and found him in about 20 min. I am sure he saw me 1st but he never said a word. He knew he was wrong.......

He came down from his stand and argued with me a little so I just pulled out my phone and told him I wasn't going to call the law but the more you talk instead of get you sh*t packed up and gone the more I am prone to call them.

He packed up and I told him if I ever saw him again I was calling the law and getting him charged with armed trespass.

I got his lic number and I have 2 good photos of him on my game camera I probably should call the law anyway but I don't feel like dealing with the hassle.

jwb267

now you will be burnt out

Sam06

The funny thing is if he asked I would have let him hunt as long as he was legal too. The deer around here need to be thinned out some, especially the does.


As far as burning me out, I doubt it he didn't look the type. He knew he was wrong though.

This is probably the 10th time I have run off trespassers and I have had at least 3 kill deer on my property with bows.

There are 2 guys who have my permission to hunt on or cross through my place to get to public lands you cannot get to without a boat or crossing a fairly deep creek. I called them and asked if they knew the guy(He drove a Green Dodge 2009 P/U) neither did.

SCOUT5

Just aggravating to have to deal with things like that.

Here in Indiana you can carry a side arm while bow hunting provided you have a carry permit, you can't use it on deer unless it's hand gun season and it meets criteria. You can also carry a sidearm if you are hunting with it and it meets the criteria (cartridge, barrel length etc) and it is legal for that season. Archery season basically runs through the course of all the seasons, so you could archery hunt and still have a hunting sidearm with you as long as it's a legal season for the sidearm and you have a license that covers it.

So he may not have been breaking any rules by carrying the handgun while archery hunting. Except, of course, the trespassing and hunting without permission, which kind of trumps the rest anyway.

Sam06

Scout, the public land area where he was hunting is Archery only for deer, you can use a shotgun for ducks and squirrel.

I found this so If he has a CCP he was legal:
Effective Oct. 1, new North Carolina regulations allow archery hunters "to carry, but not hunt with, a concealed handgun with valid concealed carry permit or an open carry handgun, as long as it is not in conflict with any other regulations in that jurisdiction." The change is not reflected in the 2011 North Carolina Hunting Regulations Digest, as it was printed before the law was passed.

I found the Crossbow regs too:
Crossbow Regulations in North Carolina

Update on October 2015: minimum crossbow draw weight allowed has been reduced from 150 to 100 lbs. A great change, as it opens up hunting possibilities to owners of older compound crossbows, many of which are below 150 lbs. Happy shooting!!

Crossbows have been legal for hunting in North Carolina since August 1rst, 2010 during any season in which bow and arrows are permitted. In regard to deer, during any open archery, gun, or muzzleloader season it is permissible to use crossbows. Crossbows may be used to harvest any other game animal, game bird, and/or nongame animal which has a season.

It is unlawful to take migratory game birds with a crossbow on Sundays.
Regardless of impairment, any license exempt or properly licensed hunter is legally permitted to use a crossbow in North Carolina.
Crossbows must have a minimum draw weight of 100 pounds.
Bolts must be with fixed broadheads no less than 7/8 of an inch wide. Mechanically opening broadheads must be no less than 7/8 of an inch wide when in the open position. These may be used for harvesting deer; bear; wild turkey; and/or wild boar.
Blunt style bolts may be used to harvest birds and small animals. Examples are squirrels; rabbits; grouse; pheasants; and quail.
It is unlawful to use bolts which are barbed; poisoned; drugged; or equipped with explosives to harvest any type of game.
It is no longer necessary to obtain a pistol permit for purchasing a crossbow in North Carolina


I know when I 1st moved here in the early 90's and again in 2000 you had to have a disability to hunt with a crossbow, I guess that is not the case and you can hunt with one throughout the season.

I know the guy who lives down the road about a mile hunts with one and says it kills very cleanly.

Here is where I am going to get flamed;

I don't think you should be allowed to use a crossbow unless you are disabled. To me again its like inline muzzle loaders I get the idea but I think it is stretching the intent.

Just my opinion and its worth what you payed for it

spasmcreek

i would register a complaint with the sheriffs office / co atty office and all the info and pics but asking no action be taken this time.....establish a history on the chithead and when #2 event happens you can max flame him.....

Brookwood

I hunted for many years on my BIL's 40 acre farm. (which was posted) It is a long 40 with one side adjoining a dirt road. On one occasion, I was set up and hunting from the base of a tree overlooking the woods on the backside. A nice buck presented itself and as I was just about to pull the trigger, a shot rang out coming from the roadside of the property. My buck went down. Some A HOLE shooting from his truck took my deer!

I had quite a pleasant time reading this inbred son of a jackal all of my thoughts about his actions and his illegal hunting methods. When I finally ran out of breath the dude said nothing and made a b line for his truck and was gone. I took care of the deer but it just didn't taste as good as if I had dropped it myself. Also had several different confrontations with trespassers on this property during hunting seasons and mushroom times. The area there is a land where the inhabitants surrounding the place seem to think they can tread anywhere they please.

wpageabc

Trespassers suck. Poachers are the worst since they also take out of season. Both are a major problem and who knows if they do these violations what else they are capable of..,

Certainly share info on the Cretan with neighbors and friends if not local game warden.

Sam06

Just so happens this morning I was going to the dump to dump my garbage. I stopped along the road to pick up 2 bumper covers that had been knocked off of cars that either hit a deer or had a wreck. I usually will stop and pick them up.

Well my truck was off the road with the flashers and a Deputy stopped and asked if I had trouble. I told him what I was doing and he got and helped me.

I told him about the trespasser and told me that next time to call them. He said the guy could have shot me or my dogs. I told him I would. This deputy patrols the area where I live and I have spoken to him before.

SCOUT5

I would have taken care of it myself as you did. Just the way I've done things my whole life. If I needed the law I'd call, but most things can be taken care of without it. No reason to involve more people than needed, that just complicates things.

bustedknee

Me: Are you lost, young feller?

Him: Nope.

Me: Are you sure you aren't lost?

Him: No, I'm not!

Me: I don't hear well, son. Did you say you are not lost?

Him: That's right! I ain't lost!

Me: That's too bad, 'cause you are trespassing on my land!

Him: Mmnph, gijk blt cddg.....some BS story.

Me: Let me tell you about my backhoe. Up here in these woods I can dig a grave in 12 minutes...a little less in the daylight.
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Me: well, I' m waiting for my apology....?

Sam06

SCOUT5 wrote:

I would have taken care of it myself as you did. Just the way I've done things my whole life. If I needed the law I'd call, but most things can be taken care of without it. No reason to involve more people than needed, that just complicates things.

+1

That is the way I feel also. Take care of it at as low a level as can be done, once it gets in the system there is telling what is going to happen.

spasmcreek

i have done it both ways....but a history of illegal actions go further in court......one of the most irritating was a college prof , next county sheriff deputy, two out of texas told me they had a RIGHT to hunt ground i rented, set out bait station and a live trap that held the rotten remains of some poor critter that died there many days before......and drove a road across my planted wheat poooor sportsmanship...did no even know who really owned the ground ...i called landlord on the spot and he said hang em......they got to meet my neighbor the game warden and two of our county deputies........they never came back.....and....i always carry

wundudnee

I once had a pond about a half mile away and out of sight of the house. It was on the back line of my place. I took my truck back there to check the cattle and there was a party going on. There were about ten people with charcoal grills, lawn chairs fishing and having a picnic. Across the fence they had a big motorhome parked. I asked them who had given them permission to be there. They said "Jake said it would be alright." Jake was my neighbor behind me. I told them the party was over and to pick up their crap and *!

I never refused anyone that would ask to hunt or fish because I always appreciated when I got permission when I went to Western Kansas to hunt pheasants. I have had people park in gates, steal field corn, fish, hunt and drive across wet fields starting coyotes. Simple consideration and courtesy seems very difficult.

Henry0Reilly

A guy I went to school with gave me permission to hunt "his" place. Well turns out he was just renting the house and had no say in the rest of the property. Step son and I saw one buck off in the distance and someone shot and apparently missed. When we gave it up for the day and were headed home the property owner showed up and asked why we were there. I told him that "Randy" had given us permission. He explained that Randy only rented the house. He said he had at least 2 other people hunting there without permission.

Another time a friend said he knew a great squirrel woods. We had just got out of the truck when someone showed up to ask what we were doing there. My friend knew who owned the property but didn't really have permission at all from anyone.