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Church shooter picked the wrong church this time!
mogley98
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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/12/29/2-dead-1-in-critical-condition-after-reported-shooting-at-church-in-white-settlement/
Good guys stopped this SOB and no trial needed
Good guys stopped this SOB and no trial needed
Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/29/us/fort-worth-church-shooting.html
The successful defensive shooter thank God for him. That is the worst case scenario shot for a civilian. Gunman up and firing, long shot and playing for all the marbles.
The lesson here is if you are carrying, you are one of three people in the video.
1) the first victim
2) the successful defensive shooter
3) one of the other 5+ Good guys still working to get their gun up and on target at the bad guy.
This was the Bill drill with everything on the line.
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Before you castigate me, yes, I am aware that this clergyman has just endured a horrific Incident where his parishioners were killed in front of him. He was undoubtedly shaken to his core.
The Federal Government does not 'allow' us anything which is guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. This is the reason for the Bill of Rights, we have these rights as written and we do not need anyone or the Federal Government's permission or allowance.
The Lt. Gov. however stated this properly and succinctly.
Best.
Looked like a head shot from across the room.
It is even front and center on the CNN website! CNN!
Yep. A point far to many fail to understand.
Can I?
Huh?
Huh?
I'm going to say it.
Amen!
Now, did he aim for the head, or, did he aim for the torso and get lucky. If he aimed for the head that is unbelievable.
My point is lack of training isn't what got him killed, the bad guy is what got him killed. More training may have saved him and may not have, but he is still better off to have the gun with him than to not. He was just the unlucky one in that spot at that time. Had the spots been traded the guy that made the killing shot may have died like the first one.
The guys that come into the picture from the back of the church I assume were stationed there. I thought the whole team acted as quickly as can be expected and had the shooter not been down, or had there been another shooter, a protracted fire fight would have ensued. A learning tool for church security teams for sure. I'm sure my son and his team will learn from it. One of the nurses I worked with was a Vietnam vet in his early 70's and was on his churches security team. His team was the model my son used to set up his team.
The churches are sharing information and training. They are refusing to be the soft targets they once were. While the very make up of church congregations and services make them open to something like this, fighting back will save many lives as is illustrated by this event. Fighting back is the difference, more training will make it more effective but the willingness and determination to fight back is the biggest difference maker.
The second person who actually shot the bad guy I think was security and apparently a damn good one.
Multiple others were armed as well and the shooter wasn't getting out of there without getting shot this time.
No GUN FREE Zone and it paid off
Multiple prior felonies across the nation.
[url] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/river-oaks-man-identified-as-shooter-in-white-settlement-church/2283777/?akmobile=y&akdevice=androidphone&sslEnabled=true&amp[/url]
Cause it wouldn't take * off of anybody....
Mighty fine shooting Mr. Wilson!
[url] https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/river-oaks-man-identified-as-shooter-in-white-settlement-church/2283777/[/url]
https://sputniknews.com/us/201912301077896523-deadly-church-shooting-in-texas-caught-on-live-stream---video/
As confirmed by local police, the shooter is wearing a fake beard & wig. I'm guessing that the shooter's appearance is what caused the security members to bunch up at the rear of the aisle. I think that I see Mr Wilson with his hand on his gun at the moment that the shooter fires; within 2 seconds he draws & fires.
The shooter was no stranger at the church. According to the pastor, he had visited the church several time. The pastor had even fed him once.
Not a hate crime, just someone with severe mental problems, well known as unstable by his family & law enforcement. Sadly, he never got an Emergency Psychiatric Evaluation.
Neal
And he said he made the head shot on purpose. He said that he teaches his students to not take the head shot, but, that was the only shot he had so he took it.
What a shot!