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Gimble, Tic-Tac, Go Fast -

KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
edited January 2020 in General Discussion

Anyone watched the footage? Listened to the Pilots multi-day accounts? "Something we all encountered on an every day occurrence." "Over 60 Pilots filed reports." USN Carrier Roosevelt. Pretty elucidating stuff.

I know there are quite a few skeptics here. Please try and keep an open mind.

How do you explain this??


Mass Hallucinations??





If you do not know what the three terms in the OP mean, you have not been paying attention/doing any research.


"Over 60 days of continuous contact. Followed us to the Arabian Gulf." "Enumerable Radar and Gunsight camera Videos." "Most Pilots refuse to come forward in fear of their Careers." There have been a handfull that have. Their accounts have been the most clear and concise to date, about what is occurring in our Skies.

I try and keep an Open Mind. This documentation is very compelling.

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    charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,579 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2020
    https://www.history.com/topics/paranormal/uss-roosevelt-gimbal-ufo-declassified-video

    I think the ones we detect/track "they" are actually us, black budget stuff.  The ones from elsewhere, except for a few minor incidents like Roswell go undetected and or un-reported.
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    Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    I was just reading that a Submarine tracked the same UFO under water at 550 MPH!
    RLTW

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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    Thank you Sir. That is it.


    More compelling than the Video/Radar Images/Gun Camera Footage, is the Vocal Cognition/recognition that something "extraordinary," is happening, by the very best Pilots we have.

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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    Yes Sir. 750+ KPH. Supposedly everybody aboard the "Attack Submarine," just looked at each other, like WTF?

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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2020

    How do you explain the Sonar contact, tracked at 550mph underwater, by a State of the Art Attack Submarine? Do you really think that is "Us?" I am sorry. I do not even REMOTELY believe that.

    If you Research, or have been paying attention to USO's you will understand. The Ocean, is the last "unexplored" environment on Earth. Best place to hide, in our entire Global Sphere. Lots of stuff going on under there.


    Lots of stuff going on, all around us.

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    Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    Something going that fast under water would send out a huge wave front unless they have some kind of shield around the vessel to keep that from happening and they must have one.


    You are right we know more about the moon than we do the bottom of the ocean.
    RLTW

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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    I am opening myself up to ridicule in order to open up a dialogue, amongst Members here.

    I am curious what you all think, beyond the knee jerk reaction. If you wish to Flame, please obstain. If you wish to post about what you believe, contrary to the norm I look forward to hearing from you.

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    BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,390 ******
    Just being funny here but last night I found myself making mounds out of my mashed potato's and running vertical lines across them with my fork! :o
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    I LOVE mashed taters. You need Gravy, in order to fully utilize them though.

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    Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    I read the British are going to declassify and post their UFO incidents on the web.  Might be some interesting stuff, I know there have been a bunch of encounters around bases during the Cold War and as far back as WW2.
    RLTW

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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    That is mashed Tater talk, right there Sam.

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    Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,336 ******

    Anyone watched the footage? Listened to the Pilots multi-day accounts? "Something we all encountered on an every day occurrence." "Over 60 Pilots filed reports." Nimitz/Roosevelt. Pretty elucidating stuff.

    I know there are quite a few skeptics here. Please try and keep an open mind.

    How do you explain this??


    Mass Hallucinations??





    If you do not know what the three terms in the OP mean, you have not been paying attention/doing any research.


    "Over 60 days of continuous contact." "Enumerable Radar and Gunsight camera Videos." "Most Pilots refuse to come forward in fear of their Careers." There have been a handfull that have. Their accounts have been the most clear and concise to date, about what is occurring in our Skies.

    I try and keep an Open Mind. This documentation is very compelling.


    I haven't the foggiest what you're going on about. Carry on, though, and never mind me.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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    Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,202 ✭✭✭✭
    "Please try to keep an open mind."
    That is, unless you disagree with what we've decided all these things are. Because consensus is science, right?
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
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    Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,202 ✭✭✭✭
    Nor is there a shred of proof otherwise.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
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    Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2020

    That is mashed Tater talk, right there Sam.


    I like my Mashed Taters with Horseradish mixed in.

    Anyone else like that?

    I have a bunch of little taters and I am steaming them tonight for dinner with a steak and mushrooms on the grill.


    I believe :D

    Next time I am abducted I am sending them to Rocky's for the * probe ;)


    RLTW

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    pulsarncpulsarnc Member Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭✭
    there are more things in heaven and earth  ,Horatio ,than are dreamt of in your philosophy .  When i was a child ,growing up during the 60's ,smart phones ,computers and self driving cars ad space travel were the realm of fiction . Hang on buttercup , the next 50 years are going to be a real treat
    cry Havoc and let slip  the dogs of war..... 
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    CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    Sam06 said:
    Something going that fast under water would send out a huge wave front unless they have some kind of shield around the vessel to keep that from happening and they must have one.


    You are right we know more about the moon than we do the bottom of the ocean.
    Not sure how warp theory applies while operating in a fluid.  (air or water) 
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    JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭

    I don’t know if my mind qualifies as “open” but I’ll admit to not knowing what the “UFOs” are or where they are from.  Maybe that’s why we still call them “unidentified”.

     

    If they don’t mean us harm there is little to worry about.  If they do mean us harm there is probably little we can do about it.  I’m not very concerned about them in any case.  From watching the History Channel it appears they have averaged losing a couple spacecraft with all hands per month since 1947.  Give them a couple more months and they have to start running out of spacecraft, qualified pilots, repair parts and financing.  Their version of Chuck Schumer is probably already bitching about it on their version of CNN.

     

    My personal knowledge of ETs and UFOs is somewhat limited.  I have been to two of the “UFO hot spots”, Antarctica and AUTEC, Andros Island, and didn’t see anything out of the ordinary at either place.

     

    We are not yet ready for the final takeover Earthman.


    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭
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    Yes Sir. 750+ KPH. Supposedly everybody aboard the "Attack Submarine," just looked at each other, like WTF?

    In the 70s of 80s, IIRC, it was reported that the Soviets were developing a supercavitating torpedo that would go 300+ MPH by creating a buffer zone of gas forward to carve a low resistant path.  As the speed of sound in water is 3,000 MPH plus (varies with density, of course) the sonic shockwave will always be well ahead of the torpedo, suggesting that speeds of 750+ KPH are not out of the question, and are well within our technology today.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2020

    While I appreciate your comment and contribution to the post, the "Object," that was tracked going 550mph underwater, by a State of the Art USN Attack Submarine, had previously been tracked by equally State of the Art Surface Radars , and was being tracked/observed in an Aerial environment, performing equally incredible feats, before plunging in to the Sea and continuing on.

    The Radar tracks, and the subsequent Sonar tracks, do not lie.

    Most of the "Data," was removed from the Ships Hardrives, (declared "impossible" by the Senior Radar Techs.) Shortly thereafter, by a "Black Unmarked Helicopter" that landed, and had Computer Specialists that apparently removed the data, after removing all the Sonar/Radar Techs. from the area. (Sound about right?) We all know, that is pretty much what would indeed happen.

    The "Captain," has never addressed this incident, or it's subsequent Data deletion via the "Unmarked Black Helicopter," (That would have to have been given authorization by him, in order to land on the ship.)

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    Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,336 ******
    JamesRK said:

    I don’t know if my mind qualifies as “open” but I’ll admit to not knowing what the “UFOs” are or where they are from.  Maybe that’s why we still call them “unidentified”.

     

    If they don’t mean us harm there is little to worry about.  If they do mean us harm there is probably little we can do about it.  I’m not very concerned about them in any case.  From watching the History Channel it appears they have averaged losing a couple spacecraft with all hands per month since 1947.  Give them a couple more months and they have to start running out of spacecraft, qualified pilots, repair parts and financing.  Their version of Chuck Schumer is probably already bitching about it on their version of CNN.

     

    My personal knowledge of ETs and UFOs is somewhat limited.  I have been to two of the “UFO hot spots”, Antarctica and AUTEC, Andros Island, and didn’t see anything out of the ordinary at either place.

     

    We are not yet ready for the final takeover Earthman.



    Wow. If they can get to JamesRK, none of us are safe.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2020

    If you are not willing to positively contribute to this post, in a meaningful way, after having researched it, (you initially claimed to be ignorant of the "Gimble, Tic-Tac, Go Fast terminology, that I initially referenced in the OP, stated in your 1st post.)

    "I haven't the foggiest what you're going on about. Carry on, though, and never mind me." (Mr. Perfect.)


    Subsequently Charliemeyers007, provided the video links. Did you watch them? Have you watched the subsequent documentaries about this incident? Researched it yourself?

    If not, why are you posting to this thread? (In order to UP your Post count? Stay on top?) Well done Sir.

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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭
    If an object can go 550 MPH under water, imagine how fast it could go in the atmosphere. 
    Air launched torpedoes have been in use for over 100 years.  The British sunk ships with them in WW1.  The Japanese engineer a solution to better control the transition from air to water, enabling successful deployment against the US Fleet in Pearl Harbor.

    The US Navy has deployed a missile launched arial torpedo for 60+ years.  Originally delivered into the water via parachute after the missile motor brought it to position, it is not difficult to assume that great strides have been made in the delivery system, at least in a testing phase.  Just because something is not explained does not mean it is not explainable, Ken.  It is possible that we have been and are being visited by extra-terrestrials.

    I do not believe that we are alone in the universe, but until we can find a plausible theory as to how we can break the light barrier, we may as well be.  Many things are possible.  Not nearly as many are plausible.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    Yes Don, and I am sure that those "Air Launched Torpedoes," were able to evade State of the Art F-18's after being tracked via Radar, and observed by our Premiere Combat Pilots, doing "unexplained manuevers, prior to plunging in to the Sea." Yep. That sounds like an "Air Launched Torpedo" to me. Sorry, No.

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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭

    Yes Don, and I am sure that those "Air Launched Torpedoes," were able to evade State of the Art F-18's after being tracked via Radar, and observed by our Premiere Combat Pilots, doing "unexplained manuevers, prior to plunging in to the Sea." Yep. That sounds like an "Air Launched Torpedo" to me. Sorry, No.

     'Unexplained maneuvers' only means it was maneuvering in a manner the individual pilots could not explain.

    As stated, Ken, it is possible it is some other-worldly device.  Accepting this possibility is what having an open mind is all about.   Keeping an open mind works both ways, however, and dismissing one possibility vs. another absent proof of either is certainly not very open.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    I can appreciate, and understand your position Don. I try to keep an open mind when looking at things of this sort.

    I believe the preponderance of evidence leans toward my position/belief about this episode, in that it is beyond our capabilities at this time. It is too well documented to dismiss. IMHO.

    I do however appreciate any reasonable discussion, as opposed to the "I haven't the foggiest, what you are talking about," retort.

    Thanks Don.

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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    Those without an "Open Mind," limit yourselves to a predictable outcome, based upon the Government's explanation, of the events. (Would they ever "Lie to us?") No................... that would NEVER happen.

    I do not choose to go that route.

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    JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭

    I have no way of knowing if Earth is the only planet in the universe occupied by living “intelligent” beings, and because of the way the universe is configured it is highly unlikely that we will ever know.  Since we don’t know and probably never will it makes no sense to me to feel obligated to choose up sides and decide whether or not I’m a believer in the swarm of ETs currently occupying The History Channel.  It makes for some interesting NASA TV shows and justification for putting generations yet unborn into impossible debt, but beyond that it really isn’t possible to have an intelligent conversation about it because nobody knows.

     

    For some unknown reason this thread brings two seemingly unrelated quotes to mind.  One from the internet; “Carl Sagan and William Shatner notwithstanding, Star Trek was never intended to be a documentary.”  The other from a Burt Reynolds movie.  Jackie Gleason was the sheriff trying to catch Burt Reynolds smuggling Coors beer across the country.  Gleason said something stupid and his son said “I don’t think that’s germane to the issue.”  Gleason’s head and neck turned bright red and he screamed “The Goddamned Germans ain’t got nothing to do with it!”
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
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    allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,243 ✭✭✭✭
    I have never had an encounter with a UFO.  But this subject fascinates me.  I think they are real, that they are piloted by beings from other planets.
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    To realistically look at all the data, that has been recorded. (Less the Enormous amount deleted by the Government, ) and think otherwise, is incredulous, to me.

    The fact that an incredible amount of data and reports have been Deleted/Classified by the Government, speaks volumes by itself.

    Obviously, Your View May Differ.

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    pulsarncpulsarnc Member Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭✭

    Whatever your viewpoint , believe or disbelieve , it remains that things have been seen that cannot be explained . For all our knowledge and sophistication we still have only theories as to how the ancient folks transported the stones for Stonehenge and managed to build the pyramids. There is still a lot we don’t know about this speck of dirt we call homeb

    cry Havoc and let slip  the dogs of war..... 
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    Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    This guy is carved into a wall of a temple in Spain that was built from 1513-1733

    The Salamanca Astronaut sits on the faade on the entrance to the New Cathedral Salamanca Spain Marshall HenrieWikimedia Commons
    He has the same boots as the 1st guys on the moon had.

    What about Puma Punku?
    How can you do stone work like that and so precise with only stone age tools?  This work predates the Inca's and may be as old as 17,000 years!  There are no chisel marks and the stones fit and hold without mortar.
    The characteristic monumental stone blocks trimmed in the shape of the letters H at Puma Punku




    RLTW

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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    I am on board with you Sam06. I have not posted as to the Ancient Unexplained, that you have touched upon. There are too many issues to try to explain away, going back Centuries. Stonework that even modern stone masons with Laser tools admit they can not re-create.

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    Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    I went to Lake Titicaca and saw Puma Pinku.  I went all over that are a and spent some times looking at the nasca lines.

    Very cool stuff.

    I have seen some stuff in very remote places that I don't believe were ours.  I had a USAF JTAC team with me one time and they saw the same stuff and we were all looking at each other.  I even reported some of it.
    RLTW

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    Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,897 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2020
    Sam06 said:
    This guy is carved into a wall of a temple in Spain that was built from 1513-1733

    The Salamanca Astronaut sits on the faade on the entrance to the New Cathedral Salamanca Spain Marshall HenrieWikimedia Commons
    He has the same boots as the 1st guys on the moon had.


    The characteristic monumental stone blocks trimmed in the shape of the letters H at Puma Punku




    Yes he does, because he was carved into the wall in 1992.

    "The restoration of the Cathedral of Salamanca in 1992 integrated modern and contemporary motifs, including a carved figure of an astronaut. The use of this motif was in the tradition of cathedral builders and restorers including contemporary motifs among older ones as a way of signing their works. The person responsible for the restoration, Jeronimo Garcia, chose an astronaut as a symbol of the twentieth century."




    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for the non derisional comments. There are those of us who have seen what I am describing and talking about, and those that will - at some point.

    If you really believe we are the only intelligent entity in this vast array of Space/Galaxies, I feel sorry for your limited vision/scope.

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    bambihunterbambihunter Member Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭
    us55840 said:
    I have not found any PROOF we are the only living beings on a planet in the vastness of not just our 'universe' but in all of space.
    :wink:
    Same reasoning as why I have became an Agnostic as an adult after being fed the Wed night and twice on Sunday my entire life.

    Fanatic collector of the 10mm auto.
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    Merlinnv12Merlinnv12 Member Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭✭
    My .02

    “What we’ve got here, is, failure to communicate.”
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    If you "Couldn't care less," MerlinnV12 - Why did you bother posting?

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