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select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
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I mentioned on here about China having a second type a few days ago. No one has mentioned this in the news.

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“Here is a great explanation on why this virus is different genetically and why we are all quarantined.

Explanation:

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.

Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now. Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on.


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  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2020
    Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

    Fact: Henry VIII was born in 1491, over a century after the Black Death ravaged Europe and England. Also, the Plague is not a virus, it is caused by bacteria passed through bites from infected rat fleas. Eradicating fleas and vermin would have halted the plague, although the link was not known at the time. 
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  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,277 ******
    Busted!
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2020
    800 deaths yesterday Italy  AND yes there are two strains of it.
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
    Dr wrote it was posted on FB this morning. I reckon the only way some of these folks that think this whole matter is not a hoax will learn is when someone close to them dies. I have a 92 yr old Mom I am going to go visit this week. If she gets it most likely will die. 
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  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,768 ******
    I believe this article to be true but if the Henry the 8th part were to be removed, it would be more convincing.
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
    kinda open with the 200k -1.2M deaths in the USA...



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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2020
    And what about all those carnival ships being deployed to NYC and our own red cross ships. That must be some kind of joke to get them ready for the sick. They might be lucky and only 50K folks die.  Italy is on about a 25K death toll a month. USA is 5.5 times that  in population
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  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    GreatGuns said:
    But according to some here, it's all a hoax and even something taught to the media by the democrats to "dethrone Trump." :|

    On a serious note, I believe our president has done the best he can with what he has to work with. There is no playbook for this. Italy was blind-sided by an incoming tourist from China of whatever nationality, clearly before the outbreak was
      He waited too long and was warned by his intelligence services,Trump probably thought if he act too quickly big business would be upset. Only time will tell.And This not first pandemic with a virus and the infectious incubation peroid of 7-14 days was a serious red flag he did not act on until much later a whole month or more.

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                                 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51254523  

    • 26 January 2020

      

            In humans, the incubation period - during which a person has the disease, but no symptoms yet - ranges from between one and 14 days, officials believe.
              
                                         



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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,527 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes and the Democrats would still be arguing about something else and not doing a thing.
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  • mjrfd99mjrfd99 Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭
    Border security is health security.
    https://uncoverdc.com/2020/03/20/why-italy/?fbclid=IwAR2Rl_MU3gxLlY64-XcOXn01KahEsbl_bCD46D0ol-pP6EytghorZFKH1Lw
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