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Shotgun barrels....

Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,237 ***** Forums Admin
edited March 2020 in General Discussion
I have a 20ga Wingmaster that my MIL gave me years ago. Since I am not a shotgun aficionado, most shotguns are street howitzers to me. That being said, this gun does house duty for my wife. For years I have been going to get another barrel that I can cut down. I have looked periodically over the years, and never like the prices asked for barrels, so there it sets. With everything going on now I am once again looking for a barrel, and still don't like the prices. Do people actually sell these used barrels for $150.00+, or are they dreamers? This is pretty much just a rant. 
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  • varianvarian Member Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭✭
    i too think the prices on shotgun barrels are way out of line.  i have personally bought two shotguns in the past year with the barrel i wanted on them, swapped the barrel with the gun i had and resold the donor gun.  once for the same money and once for a little more.  depending on what you need you can, at times, buy a donor gun for parts for less than the cost of the parts.
  • LOKO383LOKO383 Member Posts: 7,503 ✭✭✭
    If you check ser no. to see what yr it is..earlier models pre 75 ish, had the same rec size as a 12ga..later were smaller..earlier models hold a premium,.all you need to buy is an express bar. slug..for the limited duty it will see,it will work fine with any type of rds..slug,ooo buck or..but finding out what yr your gun is will help you find a barrel a lot easier..Loko
  • charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭
    I have bought 870 Expresses for $100 complete. Cut it down and have her use "superlite" loads if she is recoil sensitive.  Keep some real 3" ammo for you to use just in case.  18 pellets of OO or 41 pellets of #4 buckshot are good factory ammo.
  • 4205raymond4205raymond Member Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭✭
    Agree, asking way to much on barrels. A year ago a 37 Winchester barrel averaged around $85 and now $125-$150. Yes, a doner gun sometimes a better, cheaper option. If you are a collector and not just a shooter it gets worse. Seeing a lot of barrels everywhere with issues. Poor lettering, rust, pitting, bulges, missing and home made extractor parts, cut barrels and re-beaded to look factory length, etc. I am very forgiving of bluing issues but will no longer pay top dollar for barrels that have major issues.
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    LOKO mentioned barrel to frame type. Pre '77 20ga guns were built on the 12ga frame, it's called a Standard Frame. Then you have the LW, and LT. The barrels don't interchange between the 3, the barrel extensions that the bolt locks to, are all different. Pic of the extension, or just the date code off the barrel, it can be ID'ed.
  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    there are several companies marketing Remington replacement barrels.  mossberg sells a ton of rem barrels of all configurations.  Hastings does too.  you are wanting a short barrel i take it,  and a "deer barrel"  would fit your needs nicely.  short--18-24 inches,  cylinder to  improved cylinder choke---ideal for in house use.  another source is this.  most gunshops take trades  and often  that deer barrel is taken in.  it sits on the back shelf for years.  offer the long barrel you have on hand as an even up trade.  more than likely the LGS will make  the trade as that deer barrel has been collecting dust for a long while.  the vent rib barrel you thought about cutting down has more value to the LGS
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    Remington has been changing the dimensions of 870 & 1100 barrels over the last few years, for standardization.  The only way to know if a specific barrel will fit on a specific shotgun is to try it.  As this was a secret program, we can't tell anything from the serial number of the frame.
  • lkanneslkannes Member Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭
    edited March 2020

    I have an 18 inch 20 gauge light frame 870 Wingmaster slug barrel I just listed on the auction side if you're interested. It is a smooth bore with rifle sights. I have set the bin price of $120 plus shipping.


    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/863697547

  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,237 ***** Forums Admin
    Thanks guys for the links. I had at one time, with the help of GB forum members, identified this frame, but I don't remember now.
  • mac10mac10 Member Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭✭
    the last 3 weeks I have sawed about a 14 barrels for customers that want a shorty
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    Thanks guys for the links. I had at one time, with the help of GB forum members, identified this frame, but I don't remember now.
    Serial number ends in X or N? Does a quarter fit thrugh the magazine ring? If yes, that's a Standard Frame.

  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,370 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2020
     I do not want to interfere with your deal on the  20 ga slug barrel 
    however if you have no interest in the barrel that  lkannes  posted above . 
    I would like to bid on it . as I too would like to have one for a 20 ga I have 
         This is of course only if you are not interested , I do not want to jump ahead or on  of any on going deals between posters .   especially since he posted it for your consideration  . 
                     if you don't mind  let me let me know  just post on here thanks
    how ever it goes I am good with it . 
     I would not feel OK with out asking 

  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,237 ***** Forums Admin
    D-R, sure go ahead and bid. I appreciate the links Ikannes, and Neo put up, but I would like a barrel with no sights on it. If I got that barrel, I would unsolder the sights and remove them. I need to find out about that barrel in Neo's link, and see about sights on that one since there's no picture. 

    Trap, thanks for the info. I'll check it out at my nearest opportunity. 
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,237 ***** Forums Admin
    Thanks Trap, she's a standard(12ga.?)frame. X at the end of s/n, and a quarter passes through the magazine ring.

    Ditch-Runner, Ikanne's barrel will not fit my receiver anyway.
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Trap, she's a standard(12ga.?)frame. X at the end of s/n, and a quarter passes through the magazine ring.

    Ditch-Runner, Ikanne's barrel will not fit my receiver anyway.
    I collected a complete barrel set for my 1100 20ga Std. frame, before my son claimed it. The slug barrel alone is worth the total of the rest of them. If the barrel you have is a vent rib, don't cut it down. Too hard to find, and expensive when you do.  Chamber size on an 1100 complicates finding a barrel. On an 870 it doesn't matter, 2.75" or 3", and they are a bit easier to find. A plain barrel, no matter choke or length would be your best bet, then cut to length for HD. GB and fleabay is where I found all my barrels. Take a look at Corson's Barrels. He's on the high end, and really proud of his stock. he does take trades, but for pennies on the dollar.
    Remington Model 58 20ga barrels will work too.


  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,237 ***** Forums Admin
    My barrel is a plain 2-3/4". It is original to the gun, so I don't want to cut it down. It looks like the ejection port is long enough to eject spent 3" hulls, would that be correct?
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,370 ✭✭✭✭
      1st Thanks for the response on if interested 
     I placed a bid on the barrel and of course thanks  lkannes  for posting it  for sale 
         I agree check the auctions on GB and ebay the 20 ga barrels are a little tougher to find especially the large ring but they do show up and it also seems the plain barrels draw less attention and price . 
     If I happen on a auction for on I will pass it along to you 
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    X suffix is a 2.75" frame, N is for the 3" magnum frame. I know on the N frame, either barrel works. I'm not 100% sure, but I think you run into ejection problems with the  3" in the X frame (ejector & port size), but still works fine with 2.75" in the 3" chamber barrel.
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