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The DA who recused himself from Arbery case because too big had this to say re Justifiable Homicide:
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Third Itappears TravisMcMichael ,GregMcMichael , and BryanWilliam were following , in pursuit burglary suspect , with solid firsthandprobablecause, in theirneighborhood ,and asking / tellinghim to stop. Itappearstheir intentwas to stop andhold thiscriminalsuspectuntil law enforcementarrived. UnderGeorgia Law this isperfectly legal ,
OCGA 17-4-60 A privatepersonmayarrest an offender if theoffense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. Iftheoffenseis a felony and theoffenderisescaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arresthim upon reasonable and probable grounds ofsuspicion.”
Fourth Itclearly appears Travis McMichaeland GregMcMichaelhad firearmsbeing carried in an open fashion. The investigation showsneither of them to be convicted felons or under felony supervision , they were in a motor vehicle owned by Travis McMichael . UnderGeorgia Law this is legalopen carry.
OCGA 16- 11 - 126 ) Any person whoisnotprohibitedby law from possessingahandgun orlonggun mayhave or carryonhis or her person aweaponorlonggunon hisorherproperty or insidehis orherhome ,motorvehicle , orplaceof business withouta validweaponscarrylicense. (b ) Any personwhoisnotprohibited by law from possessinga handgunor longgunmayhaveor carryon his orher person a long gunwithouta valid weaponscarry license, provided thatifthe longgun isloaded, itshallonlybe carried in an open and fully exposedmanner .”
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Fifth The video madeby William Bryan clearly shows the shooting in realtime . From said video it appears Ahmaud Arbery was running along the right side of theMcMichaeltruck then abruptly turns 90 degrees to the leftand attacks Travis McMichaelwho was standing at the front left corner ofthetruck . A brief skirmish ensues in which itappear Arbery strikes McMichael and appears to grab the shotgun andpull it from McMichael The shot is through Arbery s right hand palm which is consistentwith him grabbing and pulling the shotgun at the barreltip, the 2nd and 3rd wounds are consistentwith the struggle for the shotgun as depicted in the video, the angle of the 2nd shot with the rear of the buttstock being pushed away and down from the fight arealso consistent with the upward angle ofbloodplume shown in the video and thatMcMichael was attempting to push the gun away from Arbery while Arbery was pulling it toward himself. The 3rd shot too appears to be in a struggle over the gun. The angle of the shots and the video show this was from the beginning or almost immediately became -- a fight over the shotgun . Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law , McMichaelwas allowed to usedeadly force to protect himself. Just as importantly, while weknow McMichaelhadhis finger on the trigger, we do notknow who caused the firings. Arbery would only had to pull the shotgun approximately 1 / 16th to 1/8th of one inch to fire weapon himself and in theheight of an altercation this is entirely possible. Arbery s mentalhealth records & prior convictions help explain his apparent aggressive nature and hispossible thoughtpattern to attack an armed man.
Third Itappears TravisMcMichael ,GregMcMichael , and BryanWilliam were following , in pursuit burglary suspect , with solid firsthandprobablecause, in theirneighborhood ,and asking / tellinghim to stop. Itappearstheir intentwas to stop andhold thiscriminalsuspectuntil law enforcementarrived. UnderGeorgia Law this isperfectly legal ,
OCGA 17-4-60 A privatepersonmayarrest an offender if theoffense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. Iftheoffenseis a felony and theoffenderisescaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arresthim upon reasonable and probable grounds ofsuspicion.”
Fourth Itclearly appears Travis McMichaeland GregMcMichaelhad firearmsbeing carried in an open fashion. The investigation showsneither of them to be convicted felons or under felony supervision , they were in a motor vehicle owned by Travis McMichael . UnderGeorgia Law this is legalopen carry.
OCGA 16- 11 - 126 ) Any person whoisnotprohibitedby law from possessingahandgun orlonggun mayhave or carryonhis or her person aweaponorlonggunon hisorherproperty or insidehis orherhome ,motorvehicle , orplaceof business withouta validweaponscarrylicense. (b ) Any personwhoisnotprohibited by law from possessinga handgunor longgunmayhaveor carryon his orher person a long gunwithouta valid weaponscarry license, provided thatifthe longgun isloaded, itshallonlybe carried in an open and fully exposedmanner .”
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Fifth The video madeby William Bryan clearly shows the shooting in realtime . From said video it appears Ahmaud Arbery was running along the right side of theMcMichaeltruck then abruptly turns 90 degrees to the leftand attacks Travis McMichaelwho was standing at the front left corner ofthetruck . A brief skirmish ensues in which itappear Arbery strikes McMichael and appears to grab the shotgun andpull it from McMichael The shot is through Arbery s right hand palm which is consistentwith him grabbing and pulling the shotgun at the barreltip, the 2nd and 3rd wounds are consistentwith the struggle for the shotgun as depicted in the video, the angle of the 2nd shot with the rear of the buttstock being pushed away and down from the fight arealso consistent with the upward angle ofbloodplume shown in the video and thatMcMichael was attempting to push the gun away from Arbery while Arbery was pulling it toward himself. The 3rd shot too appears to be in a struggle over the gun. The angle of the shots and the video show this was from the beginning or almost immediately became -- a fight over the shotgun . Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law , McMichaelwas allowed to usedeadly force to protect himself. Just as importantly, while weknow McMichaelhadhis finger on the trigger, we do notknow who caused the firings. Arbery would only had to pull the shotgun approximately 1 / 16th to 1/8th of one inch to fire weapon himself and in theheight of an altercation this is entirely possible. Arbery s mentalhealth records & prior convictions help explain his apparent aggressive nature and hispossible thoughtpattern to attack an armed man.
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One of these days people are going to come to their senses and figure out the news media is the LAST place where you will find truth. The news media people have transitioned into a mob of liars, hate mongers, propagandists and DEMOCRAT partisan ideologues. They are all about spreading ideology rather than facts. Our news media is outright disgusting and should be held accountable for their lies.
What will hurt them is the videos the home owner Released . At least a dozen white people had done the exact same thing by going in and looking around but they only chased down the black man
How long did they struggle before shots fired? Why struggle with someone over a loaded shotgun if you don't hope they'll cool down and let you arrest them?
Why didn't the father attack if the plan was to kill the jogger?
They might be able to prove they knew some of the other trespassers, and there's a chance they questioned some of the ones they didn't know, without them running, then attacking. And they did say they recognized Arbery, perhaps from other surveillance footage in the area of other break ins.
It would actually save them if they could prove went out to speak to a previous trespasser and said the same things they said to Arbery when the chase started, but the trespasser just told them who he was and they let him go.
Too bad they lost control of the arrest, though.
Travis seemingly had to think through what he had gotten himself into while struggling with Arbery over the shotgun before he fired.
The impression I got about why they went to speak to Ahmaud may be wrong but is a possibility nonetheless. The site was visited by several trespassers in 2019-2020, and the house was no longer just a foundation and some framework but was steadily growing in value, so they decided to start taking incursions seriously. Then along came Arbery. Whether the homeowner or a neighborhood watch committee or just those three guys from the shooting decided to start taking security seriously, I don't know.
Ahmaud is only positively identified in one of the videos by his family but the article I read did not positively identify a different person on other occasions, such as the February 11 nighttime visit, so it isn't yet ruled out that it was him. Maybe if CNN hadn't asked Ahmaud's own family? idk.
And they were definitely not all white.
On another note, they followed Ahmaud for 4 minutes prior to the shooting so it looks like they at least tried to get him to comply.
stretch, but then again I don't know what they told investigators. My prediction is that once a jury hears the facts, not the MSM narrative that it will likely result in a hung jury, mistrial or acquittal...then there will be riots. After the fraud perpetrated by the MSM in the Michael Brown "hands up don't shoot" nonsense and the Trayvon "I'm a saint" Martin (violent predator actually) cases I don't trust a thing the MSM has to report incidents such as these. After all it's that time of season to drum up the minority vote for the upcoming election.
The three are due in Federal court today. I'm starting to wonder if they might be guilty.
Suppose the plan was to question Arbery in the hopes that he would display low violence triggers? I have heard people who boast about low violence triggers. It must be a cultural thing. Maybe Arbery was wearing some of the giveaways of the same culture. Maybe ex-policemen are skilled in identifying who thinks of themselves this way?
He did try to tackle the guy with the shotgun. Can it be they went in with a pretty good clue about what he might do? Especially since one of them was an ex-policeman? "Let him wrassle with you, make it look like you're not in a hurry..."
Then again, if they thought he might attack, maybe they just didn't want to be pressured into not doing anything and thought their guns and their number was enough to prevent incident? They certainly brought enough force to handle Arbery.
Then again, prosecutors are trying to exclude all evidence of his criminal past so people don't pre-judge. I don't get that. Maybe they should exclude all evidence of his race, so people don't pre-judge that it must have been a racial slaying?
Bad all the way around. There is NO way that anyone here can make a sound judgement call. I would love to see ALL the evidence. BUT........I know a LOT of bad people(mostly white meth heads) around my area and i will approach them differently than an unknown person or a distant neighbor. Rule number ONE in that situation.....NEVER brandish a gun unless you intend to use it because simply showing a gun MIGHT provoke something and then you have no choice(which i THINK is what happened here).
I have been in both situations.....
Unknown person trespassing, gun in holster and questioned person......
KNOWN bad guy that is MOST likely armed, gun unholstered, pointed down towards said bad guy, then questioned.
Just remember, never point a gun unless you have a reason and are prepared to fire. Lots of "accidents" happen in that situation, or the person holsters his/her gun, and then is shot themselves.