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Miltary will have to admit trangenders

serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
edited June 2020 in Politics
     The New Normal Folks & get use to it in your society.It been sanction by a conservative Republican judge!
                                                       serf
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40950946


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    spasmcreeksrunspasmcreeksrun Member Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭
    preclude this problem by not hiring one......
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    serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2020
    Come on man there's one transgender person down at the courthouse filing papers right now and unless military law is above the jurisdiction of the Supreme court  or has special dispensation it's a done deal.
                                                                           serf
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    jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 25,671 ******
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    DaveH196803DaveH196803 Member Posts: 41
    I don't care, so long as they don't change any performance standards to include them. Same with women who want to go in to a combat MOS. If you want to be infantry, you should be able to meet the minimum PT standards that the male infantry have to meet.
    As for the expensive surgeries they might want to get while in, I'm not sure the taxpayer should have to foot the bill for those, but I'm sure that's classified automatically double plus ungood and trans phobic to say.
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    DaveH196803DaveH196803 Member Posts: 41
    jimdeere said:

    They can form the first Klinger battalion. The pink dress would be their class A uniform.
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭
    And, just as with every other modification of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, this new law will inevitably morph into the need for an affirmative action program.
    Neal
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    serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    nmyers said:
    And, just as with every other modification of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, this new law will inevitably morph into the need for an affirmative action program.
    Neal

     Well that's one way to get dresses back in the classrooms since all the women wear pants now. ;)
                                                        serf
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2020
    Gorsuch knows he is legislating from the bench, and Alito took him to the woodshed in a very well written dissent which pointed out this very obvious fact.  While one may agree with the basic tenets of the decision, it is without doubt an expansion of the law as written.  Congress has considered this modification of the CRA of 64 on numerous occasions and has obviously not passed the change.  For what ever reason, 2/3 of the Supreme Court made the decision that they know better than Congress and that they know better than the 29 states that do not have these protections in place.
    Personally, I think the broader issue is that it will force employers to hire and/or retain people who have decided that their sexuality or definition of self is more important than anything else.  I think firing someone solely because of their sexual orientation is silly, but it typically is not solely for that reason, rather that the manner in which a person presents him or herself is at odds with the culture of the company or it is a distraction to other employees, or it is an attitude that challenges other employees for acceptance.  It is not what you are, but rather that you make efforts to ensure that everyone around knows what you are and are now forced to accept your actions and activism.  There is no reason that fellow employees or customers should know or care about your boudoir proclivities or with whom you choose to share them.  
    I have no problem with laws that demand equal treatment of people.  The problem with a lot of activists, however, is that equal treatment of them by employers will often result in a lawsuit, as in some cases the demand is actually for special treatment.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭
    The CRA does not provide for "equal treatment of people"; it just attempts to prevent discrimination against a class of people based on specific characteristics.  It's just a lame attempt at providing justice, but it relies on the usual human failings.
    Gorsuch is either ignorant, confused, or he believes that we are all stupid.  LGBTQ is not about sex, it is about mental illness; the class of people covered by this ruling have one thing in common:  they suffer from Gender Dysphoria.  Whatever they want to do to feel better, we will have to accommodate, even if it's surgery or hormones or mode of dress.
    Neal

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