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Are White Christian Racists?

serfserf Member Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭
Here we have a main stream media(NBC) systematically attacking White Christians as being racists!
                                                                  serf
 
The results point to a stark conclusion: While most white Christians think of themselves as people who hold warm feelings toward African Americans, holding racist views is nonetheless positively and independently associated with white Christian identity. Again, this troubling relationship holds not just for white evangelical Protestants, but also for white mainline Protestants and white Catholics.

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  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 21,858 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29

    For example, surveys conducted by PRRI in 2018 found that white Christians — including evangelical Protestants, mainline Protestants and Catholics — are nearly twice as likely as religiously unaffiliated whites to say the killings of Black men by police are isolated incidents rather than part of a pattern of how police treat African Americans.

    And white Christians are about 30 percentage points more likely to say monuments to Confederate soldiers are symbols of Southern pride rather than symbols of racism. White Christians are also about 20 percentage points more likely to disagree with this statement: "Generations of slavery and discrimination have created conditions that make it difficult for Blacks to work their way out of the lower class." And these trends generally persist even in the wake of the recent protests for racial justice.


    To question 1.

    Blacks are killed by police at a rate approximately proportionate to their involvement in crimes as compared to whites.  Therefore, statistics tell us that these killings are not necessarily part of a pattern, rather an expected result of police interaction.  Stating this is determined to be racist by the author, yet is not racist in any fashion, merely the results of a reading of the facts.


    To question 2.

    Monuments to Confederate soldiers are monuments to individual men who were engaged in the protection of their new country from an invading force consisting of men from the old country.  The States that seceded did so mainly to prevent the abolition of slavery.  This is true.  The war, however, was instigated by the remaining United States to force these people back under the boot of a government they had rejected.  It is not black and white as many want to believe.  There were many honorable men who fought for their freedom during that war, and while racial attitudes on both sides of the conflict were quite different than we find acceptable today, it was little different than defending the colonies from British attacks 80 odd years earlier.  The historical problem these men face is that they were on the losing side.  There is much to be learned from an honest evaluation of the secession of the Confederate States.  Hiding the truth by the destruction of that history, and painting all on the losing side as evil stifles thought and misses the greater lessons that can be learned from the conflict.  


    To question 3.

    While it is true that it is more difficult for some blacks to work their way out of the lower classes today than it is for whites in general, it is legitimate to discuss whether generations of slavery and discrimination are holding them back today.  It is legitimate to look at the past 60 years where institutional discrimination has been virtually eliminated and structural discrimination is almost non-existent.  Individual racism exists.  It always will, but it is not racist to consider whether the current cultural and societal norms held by a small percentage of blacks is what is holding them back individually, and making it more difficult for the the greater population.


    I assume the author presented what he thought were his most damning questions in the article, and would be curious as to the other 12.  From my standpoint, I fail to see how his subjective interpretation of the answers he received to these three makes a cast for systemic White Christian racism.

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    Brad Steele
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 10,999 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 30
    According to media and academia, anyone who is not a DEMOCRAT or does not agree with their policies is a racist, misogynist, and homophobic. 
  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭
    I was not racist until 2008 came along.
  • spasmcreeksrunspasmcreeksrun Member Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭
    black behaviour makes racism
  • us55840us55840 Member Posts: 31,332 ✭✭✭✭
    I thought everyone knew by now that EVERYONE EXCEPT NEGROS are racists.
    Even tho some of the negros totally hate all races and kill their own in great numbers, they are not racist.
     :o 
    "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
  • MrMag00MrMag00 Member Posts: 364 ✭✭✭
    Racist is just a term used by criminals and slackers to avoid repercussions for their bad behavior. 
  • mac10mac10 Member Posts: 997 ✭✭✭
    my take.. those that yell it the loudest are the worst offenders
  • mjrfd99mjrfd99 Member Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭
    Only one group watches their own morons kill babies and toddlers these past months and say NOTHING.
    DemocRATs and blacks. 
    With either?  They your part of the 2-faced lying rat insanity.  
  • BarzilliaBarzillia Member Posts: 21,891 ✭✭✭
    "Anger has two children -.hope, and courage." Augustine, Bishop of Hippo

    "Und es wird nicht hineingehen irgend ein Gemeines und das da Greuel tut und Luge,
    sondern die geschrieben sind in dem Lebensbuch des Lammes."
  • serfserf Member Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭
    edited July 30
    Barzillia said:
      Race bating Barzillia,where have you been?  It's class warfare with Marxism and The destruction of the nuclear family with Christians and The BLM is leading the charge to  destroy them  because they will stand and defend their rights.
          The BLM needs to clean it's own house before it starts pointing fingers. If I remember right and I do White Christians Military personnel shed their blood fighting The Nazi's. This is a new low for you Barzillia.
                        serf
    https://vpc.org/revealing-the-impacts-of-gun-violence/black-homicide-victimization/
    Our research shows the black homicide victimization rate is four times the national homicide victimization rate, and more than six times the homicide victimization rate for whites.  ( Only total firearm control will solve the problem)
                                                                                                                            (confiscation) 

  • BarzilliaBarzillia Member Posts: 21,891 ✭✭✭
    serf said:
    Barzillia said:
      Race bating Barzillia,where have you been?  It's class warfare with Marxism and The destruction of the nuclear family with Christians and The BLM is leading the charge to  destroy them  because they will stand and defend their rights.
          The BLM needs to clean it's own house before it starts pointing fingers. If I remember right and I do White Christians Military personnel shed their blood fighting The Nazi's. This is a new low for you Barzillia.
                        serf
    https://vpc.org/revealing-the-impacts-of-gun-violence/black-homicide-victimization/
    Our research shows the black homicide victimization rate is four times the national homicide victimization rate, and more than six times the homicide victimization rate for whites.  ( Only total firearm control will solve the problem)
                                                                                                                            (confiscation) 

    The song was written 60 years ago, and remains true today.

    Cleansing should always begin with the Church, serf, and I see little evidence of that occurring.

    And I have no confidence at all that you know what a Christian is, to begin with.
    "Anger has two children -.hope, and courage." Augustine, Bishop of Hippo

    "Und es wird nicht hineingehen irgend ein Gemeines und das da Greuel tut und Luge,
    sondern die geschrieben sind in dem Lebensbuch des Lammes."
  • serfserf Member Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭
    edited July 31
    Barzilla, actions are louder than words so let's see The Holy spirit fill the BLM movement and clean their own house by stopping killing each other before they beginning to  point the finger at White Christians and call them unfit to walk with them.
    They can start by cleaving to one mate, supporting their children and having them know who daddy is.
        The 1964 Civil rights act has been enacted over 50 years  ago and many blacks have advance but many have not and
      Probably never will.
                                                  serf
      Shortly after 10 p.m. on Thursday night, when Micah Xavier Johnson shot and killed five Dallas police officers and wounded nine others, Mauricelm-Lei Millere, founder of the African American Defense League hate group, posted a picture on his Instagram account.

  • BarzilliaBarzillia Member Posts: 21,891 ✭✭✭
    Q, E. D.
    "Anger has two children -.hope, and courage." Augustine, Bishop of Hippo

    "Und es wird nicht hineingehen irgend ein Gemeines und das da Greuel tut und Luge,
    sondern die geschrieben sind in dem Lebensbuch des Lammes."
  • serfserf Member Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭
    Barzillia said:
    Q, E. D.
      You have demonstrated nothing. Thus you cannot debate. A blanket denial is not refuting the evidence presented. It would be like me saying 30% of all blacks are racists. But we know the nuclear black family is decimated in our society now just like in Russia under communism in the 1920's.
                                                            serf
    African Americans have married the least of all of the predominant ethnic groups in the U.S. with a 29.9% marriage rate, but have the highest separation rate which is 4.5%

  • mjrfd99mjrfd99 Member Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭
    Serf -  Rats do not acknowledge truth. Even when confronted with HARD PROOF they just lie.  Waste of breath trying to reason with the rat propagandists out to destroy the Republic.
    Look at that fat d-rat slob Nadler say the violence is hype.
    https://nypost.com/2020/07/27/jerry-nadler-calls-violence-from-antifa-in-portland-a-myth/
    Another news item the rats are ignoring because it one of their POS constituants.
    https://people.com/crime/florida-boy-hid-intruder-beat-family-members-death-baseball-bat/
    Destroy the commie rats and their sick criminal constituants by every legal means. 


  • BarzilliaBarzillia Member Posts: 21,891 ✭✭✭
    serf said:
    Barzillia said:
    Q, E. D.
      You have demonstrated nothing. Thus you cannot debate. A blanket denial is not refuting the evidence presented. It would be like me saying 30% of all blacks are racists. But we know the nuclear black family is decimated in our society now just like in Russia under communism in the 1920's.
                                                            serf
    African Americans have married the least of all of the predominant ethnic groups in the U.S. with a 29.9% marriage rate, but have the highest separation rate which is 4.5%

    You provided the proof, yourself.

    I simply pointed it out..
    "Anger has two children -.hope, and courage." Augustine, Bishop of Hippo

    "Und es wird nicht hineingehen irgend ein Gemeines und das da Greuel tut und Luge,
    sondern die geschrieben sind in dem Lebensbuch des Lammes."
  • serfserf Member Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭
    Only a closed mind like yours would think and scripted such a statement Barzilla. Simple-minded is the only thing you pointed out by scripting the statement. You say nothing and are just a mime clown here as usually. Brick by brick you imprison your mind with foolish acts of posting stupid propaganda of falsehoods.
                                                      serf
     

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