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??? for you 243 guys....

toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭
Never played with a 243, but I came across this gun on the auction side
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/876436193
and thought that his claim about 1000 yards was a bit on the far side, since I haven't done much research on the 243. I was looking up the info, and came across this article, and found out where he got his info.
https://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/243win/#:~:text=243%20rivals%20a%206.5%2D284,anchor%20a%20buck%20with%20authority.
Seems like it might be stretching it a bit, but don't know from experience. What do you 243 owners have to say on the subject?

Comments

  • medic07medic07 Member Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭
    While I have not shot any 243 out to 1000 yards, I have seen videos of the guys taking the milk jug challenge where they hit a milk jug at 1000 yards.  I know of at least one person on the videos that did it with a 243.
    I have run a Remington 700 in the past for white tail and just recently picked up a Mossberg Patriot in 243 for coyotes.  Yeah I know...Mossberg...but for the price point and a detachable mag I won't cringe dragging it through Texas Hill Country brush.
    I really like the 243 cartridge.
  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,292 ******
    I have a Ruger 77 mkII in .243. Yes, give me enough bullets and I will hit a milk jug out at 1000 yds.
    The rifle in the link is a nice gun at a good price. I wouldn’t mind owning it. I would, however, install lower scope bases.
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    I've never tried 1000 yard shots with a .243.   A good rifle with the right ammo should be able to do it.  Wind would be a larger factor than with some other long range calibers/cartridges.   The longest shot I ever killed anything with a .243 was about 350 yards, but then that's the longest shot I've ever fired on game with one.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    243 is a good accurate cartridge.  I would say it is marginal for large deer/elk but it will kill them.  It would not be my 1st choice for Grizzly or Moose but I am sure it would kill one if you do your part.

    As far as a 100yd gun well just about any rifle will shoot to 1000yds the rub is will it do it accurately and is repeatable.  That gun is nice but its not what you would use to shoot stuff at 1K.
    RLTW

  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    There's not a lot of energy left on a 100gr  6mm bullet at 1000 yards fired from a .243.   Could it be used to kill deer that far?   Yes, but I wouldn't try it under any normal hunting situation.  If I was hungry enough and that was the best shot I could get I might.
  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭
    The part about "anchoring a deer at 1000 yards" seemed far fetched to me..IMO, not enough medicine at that range...
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    This would be a good start on a 1k gun.

    RLTW

  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    This would be a nice scope to top it off.

    RLTW

  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,047 ✭✭✭✭
    Back in the day I used the 243 exclusively in my area for small varmints, coyote, ground hogs, crows and the like. I had Sakos, Ruger, Remington ect. had them all and IMO, 1K is way out of line. I would NEVER try to shoot an animal at that range. I think for me the longest clean kill was with my Sao with a fixed 12x Redfield at 400 with the groundhog taking the blunt. I hear stories of this and that but to me they are stories. 3000 feet for a 243 is to much for any accuracy, all imo.
  • RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭

    With 105-107 VLD bullets it's a great long range varmint killer. Twisted accordingly.

  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭✭
    A 243 with a Berger 115 VLD will undoubtedly do its part if the shooter will do theirs.
    I soot 55 grain ballistic tip over 4,000 fps, vermin load, 80 grain for deer and vermin. Not the same gun of course
    6mm BRX held a 10 shot record at 600 yards for some time.
    Plenty of components and light recoil make it deadly.
  • gruntled2gruntled2 Member Posts: 560 ✭✭✭
    I would like to sell my Ruger #1 rifle in .243. I tried to get an idea of what to expect on the web site. No matter what I tried I got listings for just about every Ruger on sale. How do you restrict the listings to what you are looking for?
  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭
    gruntled2 said:
    I would like to sell my Ruger #1 rifle in .243. I tried to get an idea of what to expect on the web site. No matter what I tried I got listings for just about every Ruger on sale. How do you restrict the listings to what you are looking for?
    Go advanced, and type in the words to include and exclude. Just a space between each word works.
  • BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,677 ✭✭✭✭
    I punched in Ruger 243 and selected the option for single shot rifles on the left side of the page and a bunch came up. Bob
  • BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,677 ✭✭✭✭
    I have shot a few thousand 243s at prairie dogs with 75gr Sierras. I settled on the 75 gr  because it was better at longer distances than the lighter bullets. Even then at 500 yards any wind makes it a tough shot on a pdog sized target. 300 yards is easy, 400 yards is challenging and 500 is darn difficult. Plenty of energy at 500 for varmints but not enough for a deer sized animal for me at that distance, let alone at a 1000. Just my 2 cents. Bob
  • chmechme Member Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭✭
    Assuming an 80 gr softpoint, zeroed at 200 yards, 1.5 inch sight height.  At 1000 yards, bullet drop is 24 .3 FEET below aim point.  Bullet has 263 ft pounds of energy.  A 10 mph wind would move bullet 121 inches. 
    If you "anchor" a deer with a .243 at 1000 yards, would suggest you also buy a lottery ticket 
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    If you could have just one rifle to slay varmints, hunt white-tails, shoot paper at long range, and duel in tactical matches, it would be hard to beat the .243 Winchester. This versatile “little brother” of the .308 Winchester is a true triple-threat as a match cartridge, varmint cartridge, and game cartridge. With 115gr DTAC bullets, a .243 rivals a 6.5-284 ballistically out to 1000 yards. Shooting 80-100 grain hunting bullets, a .243 will anchor a buck with authority. Driving the light 55-75 grain pills, the .243 provides the flat trajectory and high impact energy varminters love. As a tactical round, the .243 is one of the best, offering excellent ballistics, moderate recoil, and stone-reliable feeding from a detachable magazine.
    The previous posts about hunting with the .243 Win. at 1,000 yards are apparently assumptions about the connection between the .243 Win. cartridge, long range targets and hunting. I have read the above quote from the linked article a couple more times and see what has happened is as a result of poor writing or editing. Nowhere is there a sentence connecting this cartridge with hunting at 1,000 yards. The statement is:
    "This versatile “little brother” of the .308 Winchester is a true triple-threat as a match cartridge, varmint cartridge, and game cartridge."
    The sentence states the three uses of the cartridge.
    Then:
    "With 115gr DTAC bullets, a .243 rivals a 6.5-284 ballistically out to 1000 yards."
    This simply compares ballistic information out to 1,000 yards without stating anything about hunting.
    Then the real problem:
    Shooting 80-100 grain hunting bullets, a .243 will anchor a buck with authority.
    There is no mention of the yardage, simply a statement regarding it's ability to anchor 'with authority'.
    So this is just a misunderstanding because of some poor writing by the author.

    John Whidden has used the standard .243 Win. to achieve several 1,000 yard titles. The current 1,000 yards benchrest titles are usually won by the 6mm Dasher or some variation of the 6mmBR cartridge which are smaller than the .243 Win.
    Best.


  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,170 ✭✭✭✭
    There's really not that much difference between the 243 and 6mm Creedmore. The big difference is the twist rates of the 6mmC favor bullets that hold their velocity and stability further than the common 243. It's mostly advertising hype but I wouldn't place any high dollar bets on 243 @ 1000 yards.
  • danielgagedanielgage Member Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭✭
    I saw a guy shoot a deer's eye out with his 243
    he was very accurate with his 243
  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭
    After reading the sellers info, and re reading the article, you are correct NN. There is no mention of a 243 anchoring a buck at 1,000 yards. However, as you mentioned, poor writing, and the yellow highlighting in the article made one think that was the writers point of view. Once I read the sellers info, I had it in my mind that was the message he was trying to get out. But hey, a gun topic in gbgd, with almost 25 replies sure is an abnormality....
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,253 ***** Forums Admin
    edited August 2020
    I had a Remington 600 in 243 once. I traded it off when I figured out I could turn it into two guns. Got a .22-250, and a .25-06. :p Now I have in my possession, a Winchester 670 in 243 that a dear and now gone friend of mine gave to my daughter in 2015.
  • mohawk600mohawk600 Member Posts: 5,529 ✭✭✭✭
    I had a Remington 600 in 243 once. I traded it off when I figured out I could turn it into two guns. Got a .22-250, and a .25-06. :p Now I have in my possession, a Winchester 670 in 243 that a dear and now gone friend of mine gave to my daughter in 2015.
    I killed my first deer with my buddy's Remington Mohawk 600 in .243......................needless to say, I loved that rifle and subsequently bought my own in .308 with which I took a splendid 8 point buck .........field dressed at 215 lbs..

    I like that model so much, it is my online name..................Mohawk600
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