Some marketing genius at Cobray

roswellnative

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877045568
decides to call this the Ladies Home Companion...  this beast would blow a burgler in half

mac10

item from the late 1980;s  the 12g units got band and moved to destuctive device

Grasshopper

That's what I thought mac. 

Locust Fork

Any time anyone breaks a rule I get a few emails......if I don't actually know if its a violation or not I'll ask Mark, but I haven't gotten any messages on this one.   

chme

The Streetsweeper revolving shotguns were specifically named as Destructive Devices- over .50 caliber, and no sporting use.  HOWEVER- you are looking at a pistol (rifled bore, under 50 cal)  I personally would find it as useful as laser sights on a flyswatter, but difference in tastes was what made Baskin-Robins.

mark christian

mrmike08075 said:

Does it violate the forum rules to note that an auction breaks the sellside rules???

Just a random question apropos of nothing.

Mike

No, it doesn't, although I don't see any issues. 

Horse Plains Drifter

The link in the OP takes me to an auction that has a seller who is not LF? 

mark christian

 

I see now that it is not LF's auction. My mistake. In any case, as long as someone bids the $1750 and GB gets it fees- in cold hard cash, who cares if payment is in guns, car parts, gold coins? that's the business of the seller and the buyer.

Locust Fork

I don't get as many messages as I once did about the forums....I was getting a few a day for a long time, but now its just a message here and there.      I think most of the time the complaints come from someone that was scolded for breaking the rules and they see someone doing what they think is similar and want to point out that another user isn't being punished like they felt they were.   

Grasshopper

I still believe that is considered a Class III auction and if right should be noted. No dog in this fight but 

chme

Grasshopper- like yourself, I have no dog in the fight- just curious- why would that be a Class III NFA item?  I would see it as being same category as the Taurus/ S&W .410/45 Colt revolvers.  

mark christian

Grasshopper said:

I still believe that is considered a Class III auction and if right should be noted. No dog in this fight but 

No, the Streetsweepers and Strikers were classified as Destructive Devices because they had a bore over .50 cal and were ruled as not being suitable for "sporting purposes." Sporting purposes rulings are strictly the preview of the Secretary of The Treasury. The current offering is .45 caliber, so it is not, by definition, a Destructive Device. Although handguns must also pass a sporting purpose test, this is limited to imported handguns which must meet certain size constraints.   

Warbirds

@mrmike08075 I don’t want to beat a dead horse or cause any controversy but I have, with CaptFun’s endorsement traded on GB.

Specifically seller was selling a G34 set up for USPSA with an optic.

I offered in Trade a S&W 629 and in the email said my bid would be valued @$750 straight across for the two guns.

We agreed through email and I bid $750, to add a detail- I was on the hook to ship the 629, he was on the hook to pay shipping on the Glock.

my bid of $750 won- we exchanged FFL info I shipped my gun and upon his inspection he shipped the Glock to my FFL.

He paid the GB fee As a seller would.

We left mutual feedback.

Capt. Fun didn’t care so long as GB got their fair slice of the value of the transaction.

mark christian

Warbirds said:

@mrmike08075 I don’t want to beat a dead horse or cause any controversy but I have, with CaptFun’s endorsement traded on GB.

Capt. Fun didn’t care so long as GB got their fair slice of the value of the transaction.

I remember that, and when the subject of trades appears in the forums, I have maintained Captain Fun's stand as the proper way to accomplish it. Like the Captain's ban on discussing two specific topics in the forums, until I am told different by GBHQ, I'll continue to follow his guidelines.  

Grasshopper

Thanks Mark for my error, I make them frequently.

mark christian

What killed the 12 gauges was that the original guns were made in South Africa (a Gun Broker hero nation at the time, but no longer) and importation was denied due to the sporting purpose clause for imported firearms. Some clever folks decided to produce them in the USA to get round that clause, and it worked fine...for a while. When the Clinton crowd showed up they began looking for a way to ban as many guns as possible, and when it comes to reading the fine print in gun regulations, the pro gun and anti gun groups are both expert at locating "loopholes." Since the bore was over .50 cal and the guns had already been denied importation for being non sporting, it was a simple matter to get Secretary of the Treasury, Lloyd Bentsen, a former US Senator from Texas, to rule the guns as Destructive Devices.

The ATF used factory sales records to track down the buyer of every newly declared  Destructive Device. If you no longer owned it, you'd better know where it went to! I had my own Street Sweeper which was a personal firearm an d not part of my gun shop's inventory. I was allowed to register it tax free on a Form 1, and with no LEO sign off, which was normally required back then. I kept if for a while, and eventually sold it to a police department in Madison Wisconsin. What they planned to do with it I have no idea, but they were tax exempt on a Form 5 and although my shop was licensed as Class 3, we were not licensed as Destructive Device dealers. That is a separate FFL at $3000, in addition to my regular FFL fee plus the $500 yearly SOT as a Class 3 dealer.

I was happy to the Street Sweeper see go!