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Your opinion on some States requiring mandatory Covid vaccinations to go to public school?

dreherdreher Member Posts: 8,893 ✭✭✭✭
To me, this is just wrong on so many levels.  I would guess this is one more good reason to home school!!

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  • mohawk600mohawk600 Member Posts: 5,529 ✭✭✭✭
    I was/am a student in a Radiology Technology Program.............we are required to prove certain "shot" records or prove immunological response (antibodies) before we enter the program. I am set to rejoin my class in Jan. I wonder if we will be required to take the new COVID vaccine.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    I've been required to take a Flu vaccine for years working in healthcare. It was that or wear a mask at all times, I have no issues with it.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • Collector52Collector52 Member Posts: 30
    I don't necessarily like the requirement, but a safe & effective vaccine is just what we need right now.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    Even a state run by fascists can't make you get a vaccine that doesn't exist.
    Neal
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,116 ✭✭✭✭
    Elections have consequences. Don't vote for people who make such demands.

    However, one has a choice: Dont allow you kids to go to public schools.
    There are alternatives. Public schools teach student to never question big brother government. Those who question authority are severely punished. 
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    Wuhan flu will go away once Joe is elected.
    RLTW

  • SW0320SW0320 Member Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭✭
    mogley98 said:
    I've been required to take a Flu vaccine for years working in healthcare. It was that or wear a mask at all times, I have no issues with it.
    Same when I worked at the VA.  I worked in Research but because the Research offices were at a VA hospital I was required to get  the flu vacine.  If we did not get the vacine our computer privileges were revoked.
  • diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2020

    I used to work in hospitals a lot, for a contractor.


    they had the same requirements about flu shots.


    i refuse to get one, yet I still worked in all of them without a mask.


    it was easy. I just lied. It’s not like they asked for proof.

  • gartmangartman Member Posts: 660 ✭✭✭
    diver-rig said:

    I used to work in hospitals a lot, for a contractor.


    they had the same requirements about flu shots.


    i refuse to get one, yet I still worked in all of them without a mask.


    it was easy. I just lied. It’s not like they asked for proof.


    Don't think I would brag about it!




  • MrMag00MrMag00 Member Posts: 532 ✭✭✭
    Everybody lies. 
  • firstharmonicfirstharmonic Member Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭
    Michigan students are already required to have these vaccines: Diphtheriatetanus, acellular pertussis (DTaP), Polio, Measles, mumps, rubella (MMR) to attend public schools. One more doesn't seem much of a stretch. And I don't doubt that there are many other states with similar requirements. Right or wrong, that's our world today.
  • diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm now an anti vaxer because the US govt has given me a rare form of Lou Gehrig's disease from, you guessed it, a vaccine.


    But it not only affects me, but my children also.


    You can take your self righteous vaccines and shove them.

  • MrMag00MrMag00 Member Posts: 532 ✭✭✭
    Afshin said:
    I believe in freedom as much as the next guy.  But when someone's choice affects my life, then it's no longer a matter of freedom.  Anti-vaxers are putting everyone's life in jeopardy.  They don't care about their own, fine, go off yourself, but don't bring your stupidity and disease to me and my family.  If people had common sense, no mandate would be necessary.  But remember, by definition half the people are below average intelligence, so we need mandates to protect the public from the stupid.  The main side effect of vaccines is old age.

    You don't believe in freedom what so ever or are ridiculously ignorant. Vaccine protects the person with it. If I don't get one, you most certainly are welcome to get one to "keep you safe". If you do your part, my decision not to has no bearing on you, you are protected by YOUR CHOICE to get one

    But you would rather force others into your panic porn vs being rational. SHAME ON YOU. 
  • Gregor62Gregor62 Member Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭

    There is no proven vaccine, so this is merely an exercise in mental *.

  • BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,677 ✭✭✭✭
    Vaccines have a couple effects. One, they protect the individual that is vaccinated by training their immune system to resist the disease the vaccine is designed to prevent. Two, they help to break the chain of infection by creating a portion of the population that can't pass on the disease. 

    The anti-vaxers remind me of liberal democrats. They count on someone else doing the work or making the sacrifice so they don't have to. Anti-vaxers count on the rest of us to break that chain of infection so they don't have to.

    My apologies if my analogy gets this moved to politics, but I calls em like I sees em. Bob
  • MrMag00MrMag00 Member Posts: 532 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2020
    Afshin said:
    MrMag00 said:
    Afshin said:
    I believe in freedom as much as the next guy.  But when someone's choice affects my life, then it's no longer a matter of freedom.  Anti-vaxers are putting everyone's life in jeopardy.  They don't care about their own, fine, go off yourself, but don't bring your stupidity and disease to me and my family.  If people had common sense, no mandate would be necessary.  But remember, by definition half the people are below average intelligence, so we need mandates to protect the public from the stupid.  The main side effect of vaccines is old age.

    You don't believe in freedom what so ever or are ridiculously ignorant. Vaccine protects the person with it. If I don't get one, you most certainly are welcome to get one to "keep you safe". If you do your part, my decision not to has no bearing on you, you are protected by YOUR CHOICE to get one

    But you would rather force others into your panic porn vs being rational. SHAME ON YOU. 
    Vaccines aren't 100% protective, you can still catch the disease given a large enough exposure in some cases.  That exposure happens when you come across an idiot anti-vaxer with the disease.  Freedom doesn't mean you're allowed to jeopardize other peoples' liberties with your ignorance and stupidity.  It's amazing how people equate freedom with a lack of regard for others.  Vaccines protect you and those you come in contact with from you.  If you don't care about those around you, then I'd say go ahead and don't get vaccinated.  I won't mourn the consequences.

    As I said a few years ago, you're as mentally blind as your namesake.

    Did you get your rabies vax? 

    You need to educate yourself.  I most likely have had more vaccinations than you and for more different things, I have my shot records to prove it. 

    But some vaccinations cause more damage than good and still leave you vulnerable.

    So if you are trying to make your case that sars cov2 is similar to polio, you just show your ignorance. CDC has come out and posted the numbers and causes of deaths and when you parse through, there are about 12,000 deaths caused by the virus alone. The rest of the numbers are people who died who had "covid" and those who had co morbidities. If you doubt me, there is also a recent admission from the AZ people. You can watch it here and see how they have been lying to us. Follow the money. There is no vax for the common cold. There is no vax for sars cov2. So no, I am not going to take some chemical cocktail that provides no "upside" to me. 

    And I don't appreciate your dishonest portrayal of people who wont take certain vaccinations as anti vaxers and irresponsible. If these vaccinations were so good for the population, why do they need a legislative waiver of liability? Answer that question please.

    Growing up, my parents friends were fighting a vaccine company for screwing up their kid. He was our age, and ended up pretty much a vegetable from it. They spent their whole lives in pursuit of getting their child some relief and justice. I could probably talk to one of my older sisters and get you all the details, but that won't change your mind or mine. 

    There are many other parents whose children are messed up from vaccination "cocktails". I'd love to see you preach your ignorance to one of those moms. If your vaccination don't work, it don't work. It either does or doesn't, just that simple. But for sure, vaccinations have screwed up a whole bunch of people. And that is why big pharma wants exemption from liability. 

    Just a quick search will bring up plenty of info on vaccinations and the risks. Google tends to favor the big political allies, 

    "Vaccination is a medical procedure which carries a risk of injury or
    death. As a parent, it is your responsibility to become educated about the
    benefits and risks of vaccines in order to make the most informed,
    responsible vaccination decisions."
    https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/30/how-can-vaccines-cause-damage

    https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Vaccinations--Know-the-risks-and-failures-.aspx


  • MrMag00MrMag00 Member Posts: 532 ✭✭✭
    AZ admission or explanation of how they report 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PcSBjSHPkY
  • BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,677 ✭✭✭✭
    Magoo you should read what the CDC said in their report and think about it a bit. From the beginning they have given guidelines about who were at high risk of death from contracting this virus. People with asthma, diabetics, obesity, heart problems, high blood pressure, cancer, etc... That amounts to 40 to 60% of the adult population. All the study said was that an additional 6%, that were otherwise healthy, died from the virus. Don't cherry pick what you want to hear and ignore the rest of the conclusions.

    Your first link from 2004 mentions the mercury containing preservative in vaccines causing autism. That preservative was not used after 1999 in child vaccines even though they could find no link. Since they stopped using it you would think cases of autism should have decreased but they have in fact increased. A glaring error in their report that undermines its validity. Bob
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