anyone looking for a home defense/inexpensive shotgun??

toad67

Not mine, but thought that even for the bin price, this would make a decent shotgun for home defense, or just general use. Not one of the more popular names in the shotgun field, but still, a well made gun. I would think that you could have the barrel sawed off, and still be into it for $300 with the bin....

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877367557

hoosier

S&W  916,  same basic shotgun as  the  Savage 67  series. Shotguns.

All great  shotguns.

rufe-snow

Although S & W's name is on it. It was made by Nobel Manufacturing, in the early 1970's. After Smith bought Nobel. They were such a unmitigated piece of crap. That they were only in production, for less than a year. Before Smith & Wesson pulled the plug on Nobel, and started selling shotguns made by Howa in Japan. 

I wouldn't sell a S & W/Nobel shotgun, to my worst enemy. For $10, $300  is just a joke.

Sam06

The 916A didn't have a very good reputation, I think I would pass.

toad67

Didn't know that about the model 916, thought that all of the S&W shotguns were fairly well made. Thanks for the info..

mark christian

KenK/84Bravo said:

An excellent deal for the $$ currently. Tempting, but trying to obstain just now. I have a thing for 12ga. Pumps.

$225 + shipping, plus FFL. (Deal just now.)

An excellent deal for the $$ just now. Great Link and Heads Up, Todd.

I am trying to keep my finger off the BIN button.

You should keep your finger away from that button. Before the panic, near new examples were selling for $200 and used guns like that one would move between dealers in the $100 range. As already mentioned, these were not especially good shotguns. It's only the passing of time (old memories fade, and new buyers enter the market) , as well as their having the S&W name, that makes buyers even look at them.  Shotguns are currently in high demand and are bringing top money. Even so, you should consider something better.

pulsarnc

The S&W branded Howa made shotguns and rifles were very well made weapons. The Nobel stuff not so much , I would pass

Smitty500mag

Do police departments still sell off their old guns? If so you can get some good buys on their old riot pump shotguns.

I bought a 12 ga Winchester model 1200 riot pump shotgun at Gulf States Distributes in Montgomery, AL that spent a few years riding around in a police cruiser. I purchased it for $125. It had some white ID numbers stenciled on the stock when I bought it. I took some fine steel wool and some gun oil and carefully removed the paint. Looks pretty good for a cheap gun. It's the one I have by my bedside these days. I figure if they're going to confiscate a gun that you shoot some low life thug with that's breaking into your house it shouldn't be a gun that's worth a lot of money that the law confiscates and never returns or if they do it'll be all scratched up.

Despite the dislike of the model 1200 that Winchester replaced the old beloved model 12 with they are good guns. I hunted with one a lot when I was a teenager that never gave any problems. You can take the screw cap off of the top of the magazine with your fingers and the barrel comes right off. They're easy to clean.

Grasshopper

SOME Smith shotguns made in Japan are excellent tools. That 916 is a club at best, BRITTLE metal, horrible function, I literally took the only on I had and through it in a creek down the road. No more issues.

toad67

     Sorry for the worthless post... I, and hopefully a few others, learned something from it though... Thanks to those who spoke out to educate me, on something I was not familiar with..

mark christian

The thread wasn't worthless. As I said in my post, new buyers enter the market who have no idea about old guns. "Hey, Smith and Wesson. That's a name brand, which means that shotgun must be good." 

 In reality, that shotgun has virtually no link to S&W beyond licensing the name.  

toad67

mark christian said:

The thread wasn't worthless. As I said in my post, new buyers enter the market who have no idea about old guns. "Hey, Smith and Wesson. That's a name brand, which means that shotgun must be good." 

 In reality, that shotgun has virtually no link to S&W beyond licensing the name.  

I came across the gun on the auction side home page, and thought that for the price, it wasn't a bad deal, since the home defense shotguns are in very high demand, and posted it. I did know that S&W shotguns weren't the best, but not the worst either, and didn't do any research on the 916 before posting the link. Thought it was a nice thread that some of us got a little education on a gun, without a bunch of nasty comments. Thank you all for that...

JimmyJack

I beat the daylights out of an old Model 30 Savage.  Did good for me,  probably falls into the same can of worms?

4205raymond

Had a Model 20 JC Higgins in 12 Ga. I know, I know, snicker,snicker. Gun was flawless and I never had a bit of trouble with it. Bought it used. Think it was made by Hi-Standard and a friend who owned a gun shop teased me and called it Low-Standard. Kept it for about 20 years and sold it for good money without a mark on it long before the run on pumps. I thought it had just a tad of quality built into it. ---------------------Ray

owles

Time Square? My kinda woman... you'll do nothing other than sell me a Winchester!

nunn

I bought a Smith & Wesson 916 a long time ago, when I didn't know better.  A reincarnated Noble, it was a piece of crap.  I sold it, with a clear conscience, to a man I knew would never shoot it.

4205raymond

KenK/84Bravo said:

Raymond I also just discovered a JC Higgins model 20 in the back of the safe a week or two ago. Another Member here told me it was a High Standard model 200. Placed side by side with another High Standard, the two receivers and trigger guards are identical. So that makes sense.

High figure Walnut, cut checkered wood, vent rib barrel and an adj choke told him/me it was the Deluxe model.

Ken, mine did not have the vent rib. Sometimes wish I never had sold it. Hurt my eyes / pride when I looked at that  JC Higgins lettering. We all make those mistakes sooner or later. Like when I sold a NM Garand at age 21 and in the Army so I could go on honeymoon. Think I sold it for $100. A nice one now probably goes for over $4,000. Mark would know. Ah to be young and in love. -------------------------Ray