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Ricci et al.

cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,644 ✭✭✭✭
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OK some think the Herritage single action 22 is made of pot metal and not a quality piece.  Given that may be, what other inexpensive single action 22's would you guys recommend?   Accuracy isn't priority #1 but staying in one piece when firing is.  I'm too old and poor for a hospital stay.
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  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭✭
    Ruger single six and be done with the guessing.
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  • dunbarboyzdunbarboyz Member Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭✭
    Ruger Wrangler!

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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭
    Bite the bullet and buy a Ruger Single Six. You should be able to pick up a good used one for $350.00 or less. Yes that is a lot more than a new model of some other guns but it is well worth it. I have one old model that I have shot 5 shot groups of under an inch at 25 yards. And it will last longer a sales conference call if you take of it.
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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭
    By the way. I don't remember ever seeing a Heritage revolver blow up and I don't know how well they shoot. I'm guessing they must be ok or they wouldn't have sold so many. Just don't put one beside a good Ruger and not expect to be disappointed.
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  • dreherdreher Member Posts: 8,893 ✭✭✭✭
    Ruger Single Six but if price is an issue Ruger Wrangler.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,644 ✭✭✭✭
    Point well taken Ricci.  I was being a little dramatic in my post.  However, you spoke of pot metal in a disparaging way and I also consider pot metal as something that I personally am not comfortable in containing an explosion.    Maybe the Herritage isn't so bad after all and your point really was the price. 
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭
    There is absolutely a difference in quality as well as price. Buy the Ruger Single Six. 
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  • Chief ShawayChief Shaway Member, Moderator Posts: 6,290 ******

    As Grasshopper has posted before, the Heritage is not allowed for sale in Illinois anymore because of the pot metal content. Think Saturday night special

    The $200 price point of the Ruger Wrangler is tempting but, I’ll take an old Single Six for a few dollars more and I have. 😉

    That being said, I plan on saving and then using my Scheels points on a Wrangler for basically free

    Only $125 more to go. 😉

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  • shootuadealshootuadeal Member Posts: 5,304 ✭✭✭✭

    Sold hundreds of Heritages over the years. Never had one come back with a real problem. They are fairly crude, not the most accurate but they work.


    Sold a couple hundred Wranglers since they came out, haven't had a ton of feedback on them but they must work decent as well or I'd know with returns.


    Either one is fine for a sub $200 beater, you can probably find Heritages for $130 or so new actually.

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  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭
    If I didn't already have this Colt Frontier Scout picked up cheap on the auction side a few years ago, I'd buy a Ruger Wrangler.






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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭
    Dude a couple of bucks don't mean nothing. If you enjoy the pistola what difference does it make. It's not like you will ever hit anything you are actually aiming at anyway.
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  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's a Colt to keep an eye on:

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  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,461 ✭✭✭✭
    while it may not split holes at 50 yards, it should kill all those beer cans lying around the yard...........
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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭
    I think he better start with beer kegs.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,644 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for all the input guys.  I'm watching a couple of Heritage pistols on the auction side.  Yes, I see that a good used Ruger single six isn't much more. What I didn't mention is that I bought a Ruger single six convertible, never fired, about 15+ years ago. I just wanted to get something fairly inexpensive so I don't mind if it gets a scratch, dent, etc. I'll start watching used Ruger's also on the auction side.

    It's too late for me, save yourself.
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  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    cbxjeff said:
    OK some think the Herritage single action 22 is made of pot metal and not a quality piece.  Given that may be, what other inexpensive single action 22's would you guys recommend?   Accuracy isn't priority #1 but staying in one piece when firing is.  I'm too old and poor for a hospital stay.

    Shot hundreds of rounds through my Heritage rough rider never an issue, heck its only .22 :)
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
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  • redhawkk480redhawkk480 Member Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭✭
    I've never had a Heritage rough rider so i can't speak about them  but I do have several old model 3 screw Ruger Single Six and several new models along with one  Ruger Wrangler,
    IF  low cost is not a issue then go with a Single Six ,  the Wrangler is a good little six gun,  shoots very well but does have a very hard to open loading gate that could be a problem for older hands  and the front sight needs to be painted so you can see it easier 
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2020
    The only 22 revolver I've got left is a very rough Ruger Bearcat with 2 cylinders, one 22LR the supposed to be 22WRM ... I took it on trade so long ago I've forgotten what, I really didn't want it but it sweeten the deal, and thought it would be a something for teaching pistol with my grand kids.  Turns out the joke was on me as it wont go bang and the other cylinder wouldn't even fit in the gun. 
    I've heard Rugers lifetime warranty would get it repaired but I've never sent one in and dont know how to start the process ... or if its even a thing any longer. 


    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    KimberKid. Good to see you posting again. 
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,644 ✭✭✭✭
    Since many are talking Ruger, I have looked at their website as well as our auction side and wonder  why the price difference between the Single 6 and the Wrangler.  About the only thing I see looking at the description is the adjustable sight on the Single 6.  There must be more than that.
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭
    You can only build a quality revolver so cheaply. I have never put a hand on a Ruger Wrangler but I feel sure that it exists because Ruger realized that they were loosing sales of their higher quality but more expensive single action rimfire revolvers. I do know that  any of the Ruger .22 revolvers, with the exception of possibly the Wrangler, are better guns than the Heritage guns. That being said the Heritage guns satisfy many folks who have them. Not everyone wants a steel Ruger and that's just fine.  I just read a test on the Wrangler from American Rifleman and they liked it. So it must be pretty decent especially for a $200.00--$250.00 gun.
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  • redhawkk480redhawkk480 Member Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭✭
    kimberkid said:
    The only 22 revolver I've got left is a very rough Ruger Bearcat with 2 cylinders, one 22LR the supposed to be 22WRM ... I took it on trade so long ago I've forgotten what, I really didn't want it but it sweeten the deal, and thought it would be a something for teaching pistol with my grand kids.  Turns out the joke was on me as it wont go bang and the other cylinder wouldn't even fit in the gun. 
    I've heard Rugers lifetime warranty would get it repaired but I've never sent one in and dont know how to start the process ... or if its even a thing any longer. 



    I would NOT send that into Ruger , IF it's a true Bearcat with both correct cylinders even in it's current condition it might be worth a fair amount,  
    I would try to check with the folks on, either of the Ruger Forum  .com or .net and see what they have to say
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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't think the little Bearcat ever came with a .22 Mag. cylinder. 
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  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    Ricci.Wright said:
    I don't think the little Bearcat ever came with a .22 Mag. cylinder. 

    It didn't.

    People tried to make them and a few Gunsmiths did one off mods but it was not a standard option.
    RLTW

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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭
    Isn't the bore larger for a .22 Mag. that a  .22 LR. ???
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  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    Ricci the bullets are the same diameter but the case of the 22wmr is larger in diameter than the 22lr.  A 22lr will fit in the cylinder of a 22wmr and fire but it will split. The 22wmr will not fit in the cylinder of the 22lr because it is larger in diameter and obviously longer too.
    RLTW

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  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,769 ******
    I'm getting a good education on the quality of 22 revolvers here with this post!  I know my little High Standard Double Nine has been a very dependable plinker for all the fun I have had out in my backyard range.  I bought it from a buddy a little over a year ago for a whopping 125 bucks and the little pistol looked like it wasn't shot much.

    I like the fact that I get 9 shots and my accuracy keeps on improving the more time I spend with it depleting my 22LR stash!    
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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭
    I haven't had much experience with the Double Nine, but if HS built it then it's quality. I know the double action Sentinel revolver much better. It was designed by a guy named Harry Sefried, a HS designer who came up with some good stuff. Your gun should have a small rectangular cut  by each cylinder. They were put there so the gun could be safely dry fired without having the firing pin slam into the cylinder there by peening it and inducing misfires. 
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  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭✭
    Ricci, better dig a litter deeper in the into the ole bearcat book of knowledge in regard to the 22 mag info.
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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭
    Why?? 
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  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭✭
    Ruger made the super bear cat with 22 mag cylinder, that's why.
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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭
    You are right Sir. I have never seen or remember reading about them but apparently Ruger did produce a small number of Bearcats in 1993 with both cylinders and then recalled all of the mag cylinders. You have to understand I was just a wee child in 1993, much too young to be handling firearms. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
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  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭✭
    Dang you are a pup.
    Super bear cats with extra cylinder are rare and price reflects that. Have found a few on line for buyers.
    Most were recalled and magnum cylinders were kept  by Ruger. Hard to pin down the exact reason for the recall.
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  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭✭
    There you go again with those long fancy words.
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  • roswellnativeroswellnative Member Posts: 10,196 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2020
    • Ruger single six and call it good 
    Although always described as a cowboy, Roswellnative generally acts as a righter of wrongs or bodyguard of some sort, where he excels thanks to his resourcefulness and incredible gun prowesses.
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