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Police Officer Fired

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White Texas officer charged in fatal shooting of Black man is fired

Janelle Griffith
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NBC NewsOctober 8, 2020
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A white police officer who was charged with murder in the fatal shooting of a Black man at a gas station in Wolfe City, Texas, has been fired.

Jonathan Price via Facebook
Jonathan Price (via Facebook)

The officer, Shaun Lucas, 22, was fired Thursday for "his egregious violation of the city's and police department's policies," Wolfe City said in a news release. Lucas was one of six officers in Wolfe City, about 70 miles northeast of Dallas, all of whom are white.

Lucas had been on the force since April. Before that, he worked as a jailer for the Hunt County Sheriff's Department for five months. Lucas was arrested Monday and charged with murder in the fatal shooting of Jonathan Price, 31, Saturday night at a gas station in Texas.

Mayor Sharion Scott and the City Council expressed gratitude Thursday, saying in the news release that gatherings in support of Price have remained peaceful in the "tight-knit community." They said they join in mourning Price's death and the events of the past week.

"We also ask that you remember our city employees, many of whom worked with both Mr. Price and Mr. Lucas as we eventually begin the work of healing our town and the community at large," the release said.

Lucas had responded to a call about a fight at a Kwik Chek gas station on Santa Fe Street, the Texas Ranger Division said Monday.

Lucas tried to detain Price, who had intervened after he saw a "man assaulting a woman," according to Lee Merritt, an attorney for Price's family.

The Texas Rangers said that Price resisted in "a nonthreatening posture and began walking away" and that Lucas then fired a stun gun before "discharging his service weapon striking Price."

Price was taken to a hospital, where he died.

"The preliminary investigation indicates that the actions of Officer Lucas were not objectionably reasonable," the Texas Rangers said.

Lucas's attorneys have previously said that he "only discharged his weapon in accordance with Texas law when he was confronted with an aggressive assailant who was attempting to take his" stun gun.

In a statement Tuesday, one of Lucas' attorneys, Robert Rogers, said Price "did not claim to be an uninvolved, innocent party" when Lucas arrived at the scene, as Merritt has implied.

On Thursday, another attorney for Lucas, John Snider, said, "Unfortunately, there is no appeal process available for Mr. Lucas to challenge the employment decision."

"Mr. Lucas acted within policy and law during this entire incident," Snider said. "He attempted to detain Mr. Price and was met with physical resistance."

Snider said Lucas only discharged his pistol "as a last resort."

Lucas remains in jail, with bail set at $1 million.

Price played football in 2008 at Hardin-Simmons University, a private Baptist college in Abilene, Texas.

"Jonathan Price deserves justice by virtue of his humanity alone," Merritt said Monday before Lucas was arrested. "He was a great guy. He was a mentor. He was a hometown hero. He was a motivational speaker. He worked with kids. He did all those things that deserve praise.

"But that is not why he deserves justice. He deserves justice because he was a human citizen who was not breaking the law who was gunned down by a police officer," Merritt said.


Comments

  • shootuadealshootuadeal Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭✭

    Isn't Wolfe City Nunns stomping grounds? I could be wrong.

  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    I don't think this report is as clear as it could be, but it certainly does not look good for the young officer.
    What's next?
  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
     Too young and inexperience to be alone on duty but then they can't have two officers in the car to respond any longer because of funding.  Shooting a taser is not a deterrent in some cases and can escalate the situation.   He is toast. The black guy should have just sit down and waited, he would have possibly been alive today. You can beat the rap but not the ride comes to mind.
                                                    serf
  • grdad45grdad45 Member Posts: 5,382 ✭✭✭✭

    Isn't Wolfe City Nunns stomping grounds? I could be wrong.

    Nunn posted about it several days ago. 


  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    kimi said:
    I don't think this report is as clear as it could be, but it certainly does not look good for the young officer.
    Again, you are spot on kimi, the article as read is an opinion piece filled with speculation.
    Sadly and having said that, speculation and opinion is what passes as news these days. Activism had replaced Journalism and no one trusts the media.

    For those who want fact, wait until you see or read actual findings from the Hunt County Grand Jury.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    The trial will be interesting.  I'll be watching.  

    TV stations sent news crews here to cover the City Council meeting during which Lucas was officially fired.  My little bride addressed the council and one of the reporters, and her remarks were aired on several stations.  She urged the Council to NEVER hire another rookie officer, but to insist on a new hire having several years of experience.

    I agree.  There are lots of eligible-to-retire officers who wouldn't mind a very low stress job to augment their retirement pay.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    I think that it's a little early to start planning how to reorganize the local PD. 
    Not hire rookies?  Every LEO started as a rookie, not an experienced veteran.  Better keep in mind the "law of unintended consequences".  There's a big pool of "experienced veterans" out there who you won't know are reckless hot heads who were fired or allowed to resign due to performance problems, such as shooting innocent civilians, until the first time they show that they have a problem that their previous employer kept secret.  Small jurisdictions either need to vet & train ALL their LEOs correctly, or they should close the office & ask the state to take care of LE for them.
    Small departments on Maryland's Eastern Shore got together & created their own academy:
    Graduates are highly sought as rookies by many PD's.
    Neal

  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    Rookies need to ride along with a veteran officer for at least 12 months before being cut loose on the streets alone.  Stress does strange things to people and a 12 month ride along with a certified training officer can make a so-so cop into a public servant of the first order but, it takes training and weeding out the ones that can't cut it.
  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭✭
    Point to take. We were not here and in his situation.
    Does sound bad but we may never why things went as they did.
    Fake news sites do enough speculation of their own.
    Repeat an opinion enough the it will become fact. 2 cents.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    There's a whole bunch of "shoulds" above this, shoulds that will never come to be.  Wolfe City is a town of 1400 or so people, with a budget for 3 officers.  Even if there was a Field Training program, there isn't call volume enough to train a rookie.  We can, if we try, properly vet any prospective hire, whether rookie or veteran.  

    Were I the Chief or the Mayor, which I'm not and glad of it, I would tell the officers, "I don't care if you ever write a ticket or make any arrests other than felonies. What I care about is keeping the peace. And someone will be on duty, all night, every night, keeping watch for fires, vandalism, and burglaries." Boring duty to be sure, but necessary.

    And I would try to hire retirees from other departments, people with 20-30 years of service, and 45-60 years of age. People drawing a pension from their previous employment, and who wouldn't mind making modest salary here to augment it.
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    nunn said:
    There's a whole bunch of "shoulds" above this, shoulds that will never come to be.  Wolfe City is a town of 1400 or so people, with a budget for 3 officers.  Even if there was a Field Training program, there isn't call volume enough to train a rookie.  We can, if we try, properly vet any prospective hire, whether rookie or veteran.  

    Were I the Chief or the Mayor, which I'm not and glad of it, I would tell the officers, "I don't care if you ever write a ticket or make any arrests other than felonies. What I care about is keeping the peace. And someone will be on duty, all night, every night, keeping watch for fires, vandalism, and burglaries." Boring duty to be sure, but necessary.

    And I would try to hire retirees from other departments, people with 20-30 years of service, and 45-60 years of age. People drawing a pension from their previous employment, and who wouldn't mind making modest salary here to augment it.
    There are a lot of small police districts like this across America.   Something people from larger places often do not understand.  Programs and systems that work for large departments are not feasible for these small districts.   Your system of hiring experienced officers is most likely the best approach.  Providing you can find the them to hire.
  • roswellnativeroswellnative Member Posts: 10,195 ✭✭✭✭
    My .02. If you obey what an officer says chances are slim you get him to shoot you. I must say that I wouldn’t want the job for all the tea in China. 
    Although always described as a cowboy, Roswellnative generally acts as a righter of wrongs or bodyguard of some sort, where he excels thanks to his resourcefulness and incredible gun prowesses.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    nunn said:
    The trial will be interesting.  I'll be watching.  

    TV stations sent news crews here to cover the City Council meeting during which Lucas was officially fired.  My little bride addressed the council and one of the reporters, and her remarks were aired on several stations.  She urged the Council to NEVER hire another rookie officer, but to insist on a new hire having several years of experience.

    I agree.  There are lots of eligible-to-retire officers who wouldn't mind a very low stress job to augment their retirement pay.
    I agree with Dawnie as well.  Absolutely solid advice.
    What's next?
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