Black Talons

select-fire

Just scored some 10mm ,not at this price though

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880692024

Ditch-Runner

 I should have waited its been a few years and thought I did Ok selling off mine I had several boxes of 10MM and 9mm 
 at the time they pulled them off the market I sold all i Had . oh well water under the bridge 
 if I remember the lawman ?? just a guess I do not remember the name  came in  just after they stopped the production and all the bad press of the black talon   they are about the same or real close if I remember correctly 

CaneyRiverDog

Ditch-Runner said:

 I should have waited its been a few years and thought I did Ok selling off mine I had several boxes of 10MM and 9mm 
 at the time they pulled them off the market I sold all i Had . oh well water under the bridge 
 if I remember the lawman ?? just a guess I do not remember the name  came in  just after they stopped the production and all the bad press of the black talon   they are about the same or real close if I remember correctly 

I got a case of the 180gr 40s&w. Supposedly the same bullet just without the black teflon coating

mac10

got 3 cases of black bullet 9mm and 45 in 50rd law boxes from years ago  wonder what i can get for them if we dont have civil war

chme

SXT,  No black bullet, but is was the Same eXact Thing.

kannoneer

Have several boxes of 9 mm SXT ammo, and I must say they are the most uniform expanding slugs I have ever shot in that caliber. 

Ricci.Wright

Better bullets available now, especially in 9mm.

Ricci.Wright

Well if I was going after really big leaves.  Sorry. As I recall, in spite of the news touting the black talon as acting like a buzz saw with the sharp edges ripping and cutting flesh, they weren't anything special. One of the things the FBI does well in my opinion is testing ammo. I see they have gone with Winchester PDX1 147gr as their carry ammo. The only 9mm pistol I own is loaded with Speer Gold Dot 124+P and I would have been fine with the Federal HST 124+P or Hornady Critical Duty 135 looks good. My 10 mm is loaded with the old school Winchester Silvertip 175 cause I had them and they shoot very well in every 10mm I have ever owned. I changed my .40 from some Hornady TAP 180 to Federal HST 180. In .45 acp I have Hornady XTP 200 +P, Remington Golden Sabre 230 (by the way, due to the ogive this bullet will feed in a lot of guns that won't feed other hollow points) Some of the how Rem. G.S. 185+P, Federal Hydra Shok 230, and of course good old 230 ball.<P>
It's all well and good and fun to talk about bullets and there is a case for the latest and greatest in bullet research and development. A lot has happened in the last ten years but placing those projectiles precisely is just as important today as it was on day one with the first firearm shot. 

Ricci.Wright

There was no "big thing". Just the media lying their * off just like today. They had a surgeon on the news saying he couldn't save patients shot with B.T. cause the bullets acted like little saws and tore things up too badly to be repaired. 

Ricci.Wright

NO!! .410 is for playing games with clay targets, not for stopping someone trying to kill you. I could never understand why folks around here had .300 magnum rifles to shoot 150 lb deer and would bet their life on a .410 in a pistol no less, and a garbage taurus judge even less, to stop a 200 lb man trying to kill them in their own house. Sorry but it is a pet peeve of mine. And don't get me started on .410 derringers.

Ricci.Wright

No that is not what I said at all. No body wants to get shot with a damn bb gun. What I said in effect is plan well ahead of the time when one needs a firearm to defend oneself. Planning to defend oneself with a .410 however you load it is pure folly unless there is nothing else available. 

Nanuq907

My thinking is, if I have to shoot something that's trying to kill me or my family, at home or in the woods, there will be absolutely no question whatsoever that it's having a foot-wide hole through the middle of it when I'm done.  I want to see daylight.

Sam06

410 doesn't penetrate enough and is not very accurate.

Remember the only things that matter are Penetration and bullet placement all the rest is angles dancing on the head of a pin. 

I would rather have a 32 auto that I shoot good(like my Beretta 81) to any derringer especially loaded with 410 ammo.  I have a derringer too and its loaded with snake shot and that is what I have used it for shooting snakes and that is just about it(and only if I cannot relocate them).  Now if that is all I had and some guy attacked me on my property(I only carry it when I am messing around on my place) I guess I would stick it in his ear and pull the trigger.

Black Talons were cool back in the 90's but there are better designed rounds out now, Ricci named a few.  I wish Winchester would bring back the old Silver tips in pistol and rifle and I wish Federal would bring back the old Nyclad bullets.

mohawk600

Wish I still had the ones I bought back in the 90s..........just to make a buck.

Ricci.Wright

I think I have a few boxes of 10mm in the ammo cabinet.

select-fire

I actually have my 10mm loaded with those 180 gr. Sig V Crown Hollow Points.

nmyers

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880575445

Black Talons?  Looks like plain brass cases to me.  Black Talons have nickel plated cases.  Reloads, or is that just a problem with his flash?

Neal

Ricci.Wright

Every BT that I have seen was in a nickel case. Where are the boxes?? Much better bullets available. No collector value without boxes. They were not banned.

pulsarnc

I also had a few , nickel cases as pointed out .

badchris

I've got a box or two of black talons for my 45, but carry gold dots in my 1911.

I even have a partial box of the old silvertips that I occasionally pull out and show off. Hornady lite critical defense for the LCR nowadays.

RobOz

The nickel cases really looked nice with the black bullet. I can't remember if the offered the bullet as a reloading component.

NeoBlackdog

RobOz said:

The nickel cases really looked nice with the black bullet. I can't remember if the offered the bullet as a reloading component.

There was definitely a 'cool factor' to 'em.  I've got some .223 rounds that have a black case and a red polymer tipped copper bullet.  Seems almost a shame to shoot 'em 'cause they look so good!

Warbirds

I believe I have a few boxes of 30-06 Black Talons.

select-fire

nmyers said:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880575445

Black Talons?  Looks like plain brass cases to me.  Black Talons have nickel plated cases.  Reloads, or is that just a problem with his flash?

Neal

Oops... Big money for brass .. Never seen any except nickel