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Remington Arms Gets their FFL

nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
edited January 2021 in General Discussion

New owners of Remington Arms plant in Ilion obtain firearms license, plan to open

Donna Thompson

Times Telegram

The new owners of the Remington Arms plant in Ilion have received their federal firearms license and are preparing to begin operations, according to Richmond Italia of Roundhill Group LLC.

“Our plans call for 200 factory workers and another 20 to 30 office employees,” he said in an email. Roundhill had sent out employment offers to 200 former Remington Arms workers to work at the new RemArms Company and nearly 90 percent accepted.

“As for the balance, we will just confirm that the others have not just been delayed or lost in the mail and then we will continue to offer employment to fill all 200 positions,” Italia said. “Our hopes are to consolidate in Ilion and go back to an 800-employee facility. That number is highly contingent on our negotiations with the county and the state of New York, and, of course, the union.”  

Remington workers are represented by United Mine Workers of America Local 717, and union members expressed confusion about the offers they received in December to begin work at the plant again in February.

The offers said they would receive the same salaries they had been making, but there would be some changes to the health plan and workers would be employed “at will,” which could deny them due process if they were terminated for any reason.

Phil Smith, UMWA director of communications and governmental affairs, said at the time that there had been no talks with Roundhill and that companies could not legally ask union members at a facility where there is a union contract to work without that contract as a condition of employment.

Italia said Friday that the owners are in talks with the union and “hope to come to a mutual beneficial agreement for all parties involved.”

He said the offer to the employees was not conditioned on waiting for these negotiations to be complete.

“I understand people need jobs to survive,” he said. “I've been there, and I sympathize. We are willing to risk reopening the plant, even while in negotiations.”

Roundhill Group LLC purchased the Ilion operation minus the Marlin line along with the handgun barrel factory and auxiliary property in Lenoir City, Tennessee, for $13 million when Remington Outdoor Company’s assets were broken up and sold in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Alabama.

Remington Outdoor Company filed for bankruptcy in July 2020 and announced in October that it was terminating the employment of 585 workers at its Ilion plant effective Oct. 26, and cutting off all their health care and other contractual benefits on Oct. 31.

The company also said it would not pay severance and accrued vacation benefits, as called for under its collective bargaining agreement with the UMWA. The union is fighting that decision and local union workers and supporters have conducted several rallies calling for the company to live up to its agreement. International UMWA President Cecil Roberts was in Ilion for a rally in November to assure members of the union’s support.

Donna Thompson is the government and business reporter for the Times Telegram. For unlimited access to her stories, please subscribe or activate your digital account today. Email her at


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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,657 ✭✭✭✭

    A new company with old habits does not bode well for the future.

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    shootuadealshootuadeal Member Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭✭

    If I was the union I wouldn't be fighting about benefits before that plant even opens.

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    chmechme Member Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭✭

    IANAL- but I think the union contract was with Remington. The new owners are the Roundhill Group, who did not have a contract. Going to be interesting to see how this pans out.

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    nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
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    Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,635 ***** Forums Admin

    I had to look up you guy's acronyms!😏

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    bustedkneebustedknee Member Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭✭

    United Mine Workers Union?

    Why not the Postal Service Union?


    The Broadway Dancers Union?

    I can't believe they misspelled "Pork and Beans!"
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    chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭

    For the likes of me, I cant understand why they want to operate in Ilion NY.

    The business climate is horrible as well as the taxes. State government abhors anything gun.

    Go South Remington: Flourish and profit in a right to work state.

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    fatcat458fatcat458 Member Posts: 390 ✭✭✭

    l am glad for this great news. l have seen Remington 700 prices DOUBLE on some models here on GB, esp the older ADL/BDL models. l can only pray the BEST for them. As for quality, lmhop. The weak link in Remington bolt guns were the triggers. Since the 80s l have always replaced them with a Jewel or Shilen.

    From a benefits perspective, many employees are represented by Unions that have nothing to do with the product the business produces. Look at a Colt box. lt has a ''UAW'' label. l think the same can be said for Smith&Wesson.

    l personally would NEVER work for an employer unwilling to provide health lns/retirement for my family and me

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    nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭

    Most of us wonder why they chose to stay in New York State but I think it's a good move for the time being.

    They have a building already built.

    They have machinery which was making parts right up until the shut down.

    They have trained personnel all ready to go to work.

    They have supply lines intact with transportation available.

    It's really a no-brainer to stay put for the time being.

    Most important though is that with the turmoil the nation is suffering through during this transition, Roundhill gets to have a look at the way the nation and the state shakes out while they get their feet underneath them. If it looks shaky and possibly intolerable, they get a picture of which states will not only harbor them but kick in with all the perks of being a potentially growing business to have feeding the state and local coffers.

    Making the best of a poor situation is a good idea right now.


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    He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,210 ✭✭✭✭

    Ilion does indeed make sense, though in recent decades Remington has not. They will have a lot of baggage to try to overcome and only a quality product will get that done. Good luck to them.

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    GeriGeri Member Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭

    I wish I could speak with them, I have a few ideas I would like to talk to them about.

    Just don't know about the atmosphere to firearms manufacturers in NY, not to mention the taxes

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