In order to participate in the GunBroker Member forums, you must be logged in with your GunBroker.com account. Click the sign-in button at the top right of the forums page to get connected.
Horse wormer for COVID treatment
SCOUT5
Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
Ivertectin has an approved treatment method for parasitic infections in humans. Using it to treat certain viral infections would just be a repurposing of the medication. That is common. Research on using this medication to treat viral infections has been going on for quite a while, not just since our COVID pandemic.
Not saying to take, it just posting information.
Comments
Yeah..........awhile back some idiots (man and wife) in Arizona dosed themselves on aquarium cleaner, because it contained chloroquine, thinking it would prevent them from getting COVID............THEY DIED.
Lesson is..........Veterinary/common things in use for animals don't always translate to human use. Stock vet grade antibiotics for your SHTF bag if that's all you can get.........but be wary.
'This was a gift to us': Ivermectin effective for COVID-19 prophylaxis, treatment (healio.com)
tried to read it but it wont let me with my adblocker...........and no, I wont disable adblocker to read an article.
"Yeah..........awhile back some idiots (man and wife) in Arizona dosed themselves on aquarium cleaner, because it contained chloroquine, thinking it would prevent them from getting COVID............THEY DIED."
While that's true it has zero to do with what I posted, idiots will be idiots there is not much that can be done about it.
Ivermectin already has an approved human use and dosage regime. The article contains research information related to repurposing it for some viral infections. The use of veterinarian medication supplies is another area of the discussion. However I can tell you I know doctors that have taken the Ivermectin paste (horse wormer) with them on mission trips to Africa and other improvised areas and dispensed it to treat parasitic infestation. To clarify they do not use the combination pastes containing multiple medications.
Nice cut out of the second part of my post.............WHICH WAS...................
Lesson is..........Veterinary/common things in use for animals don't always translate to human use. Stock vet grade antibiotics for your SHTF bag if that's all you can get.........but be wary.
BE WARY
I don't care what they do in Afrika or on Afrikan mission trips............I SAID BE CAREFUL USING animal grade drugs in humans
Of course you are correct. I wasn't trying to discount that part, just addressing other areas.
I've read that article before but didn't find it when I was creating the thread. Much easier on the brain than the one I posted. I actually have the dosage regime from this article wrote down.
My last recollections of AZ situation were that they were investigating the wife for the alleged poisoning of her husband based on his dosage being higher than hers and rumors of a difficult marriage.
Be that as it may, I don’t think aquarium cleaner is the same as the FDA trying catch up with off label usage as in the OP.
Animal medicine ..party needs to take the right dose. My last lab was on phenobarbital .. so one night I was going to take some because I couldn't sleep. It is a relaxer. Well I figured what my lab weighed, figured the math and that is how much I needed. I went outside done some work instead came in and didn't take it. Few months later I was speaking to a woman who worked at a hospital and told her my intent on taking it. If I would have taken it ..such would have been called an overdose.. and I would have most likely died or went in a deep coma.
If you think about it,our canine friends eat road kill,drink from stagnant mud puddles with no ill effects.Most of us on the human side probably wouldn't last long if we tried that.
one of our departed pets the vet told us the dogs process drugs different than humans ( some drugs any way so do not base it what we would take )
SOME animal drugs are safe for humans. Not saying go out and buy a bunch to take. Research is KEY, some are actually human grade, only targeted to animals. Some fish antibiotics are the exact same thing that humans take, same manufacturer, same ingredients, same everything, just no need to get a prescription. As stated above, Ivermectin has been approved for human use, head lice for one. I think that would be a LAST resort for me to take for COVID however, because there are more drugs available that have been proven effective(hydroxyChloriquine SP? )
Did not read all of the link.
I give Ivermec liquid, 1cc/50 lb body weight monthly during warm weather to my dogs as a heart worm preventive .
When starting to read the article at the link I noticed this statement so I lost interest.
Ivermectin therefore warrants further investigation for possible benefits in humans.
I suspect it might warrant further investigation for possible benefits if tested on people that are horse's Axs. (or the mule headed ones)
Then you missed the information. Ivermectin has been used on humans for decades. The articles address it's anti-viral uses.
The cost of this drug has been left out of this discussion. I stock it for my horses and, IIRC, I paid $3.97 a tube for the last batch. For a guy my size, a tube would have over 8 doses. I treat the horses every 2-3 months so if I took it along with the horses, a tube would last over 2 years. Hardly anything is cheaper than that. If I was a conspiracy theorist, I might wonder if that is the reason for the reluctance to approve it.
Follow the $$$$$$$$