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Disturbing sight at Cracker Barrel today.
jimdeere
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Wife and I had gone there because we wanted breakfast for lunch. I paid and came out while the wife shopped.
Just outside the door was a man on the concrete with four paramedics trying to revive him. I waited for the wife at the car and they were still working on him when she came out.
I know from my past training as an EMT that after that long a time, his chances were slim.
Nevertheless, I hope he made it.
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I hope he pulled through.It could have been any of us.
Wonder what it was he consumed there ?
Gee, I am confused. On all the tv shows, all the handsome EMTs or Firemen need to do is 5 minutes of CPR, and the guy will sit up on the stretcher and be just fine. Could they be lying to us?
[Sarcastic post from an old time Paramedic who had been involved in over 400 cases of CPR. Probably 6 of them walked out of the hospital.]
That has to be a terrible situation to witness. I hope the best for him, but I also hope you guys are ok too.
no idea how many codes I have worked in37 years . I know the survival rate ain’t that’s good
I was in Hawaii with my wife on the beach and an old timer came up out of the water and collapsed on the sand right in front of us. Clear the airway and perform CPR and pray, hoping the pros will get there sooner rather than later. Shocking stuff.
Taught CPR for years. Glad I never had to use it. Always emphasized it was not to save a life but to keep oxygen flowing until EMS arrived hoping to fend off brain death.
Yep that’s the new technique. Play the song “Stayin Alive” by the BeeGees in your head and do hard compressions to that rhythm.
In many of the cases in which "CPR saves" the patient was never in cardiac arrest to begin with. And, it is lucky that the patient wasn't killed by having his ribs broken during CPR and the sharp broken rib ends driven in to the heart.
My buddy was at the gym several months ago, a guy went down on the basketball court, guy about 55 years old.
Gary was at the far end of the court and he ran, or walked fast to get there, and a bystander had begun CPR. Gary is an old time medic like me. The helpful bystander had done just 2 compressions of the chest. Gary ordered him to stop CPR, and Gary checked and there was a pulse. The guy had just fainted. See, for a normal civilian, it is hard to find a pulse even on a healthy patient.
Gary probably saved his life by stopping the CPR. Gary talked to the "patient" a week later and his chest hurt like hell, in just 2 compressions he had gotten 2 fractured ribs.
Y''all who have been CPR instructors, or who know of one or two incidents of CPR where it supposedly saved a life, and you believe all the wonderful stories told by the Red Cross, I know the stories sound great. Y'all need to talk to us front line troops who have been involved in CPR "codes" for hundreds of cases. We know the grim truth that CPR is, 96 percent of the time, desecration of a corpse.
You ought to see my living will it says "NO CPR."
CPR can extend the time window to treat the underlying issue, if the issue can be treated. Good CPR on a person that has went into ventricular tachycardia can extend the window for successful defibrillation. If successful resuscitation is achieved the underlying problem/problems still need to be identified and treated quickly. Long odds in any situation even longer in the field where Allen worked than in a hospital environment where I usually work.
I have been part of successful resuscitations, followed by identifying and treating the issues that lead to the arrest and patient recovery.. But I've been involved in more unsuccessful attempts than successful ones. Early, and correct, intervention raises the odds, especially with pulmonary and cardiac rhythm issues.
I encourage everyone to be get some level of emergency training though. Quick recognition can often make a difference, especially with respiratory issues. Saving a kid from choking to death can be as simple as someone just having a basic level of awareness and know how.
I have seen this type of situation. Two year ago at a fair that we work at, an older gentlemen went right down as he was viewing cars at the car show part of the fair. The fair always has EMT's/Paramedic's on duty and walking around and there is an ambulance on site with advanced life support. The EMT's/Paramedics got to him in seconds and started CPR. Now this fair is easily 1/2 hour to any medical facility. They got him right on the ambulance and to a hospital.
I spoke with the EMT's later in the day and they said he had a massive heart attack but because of the CPR he was revived and was expected to recover after surgery.
I agree about the CPR. We learned how to do it as part of our accident scene training for the motorcycle group I ride with. Also good to get updated CPR training as I learned a lot had changed since I learned to do CPR in the past.
I did CPR once on an elderly gentelman when I was on the fire department. Every compression broke ribs and crunched. I used to have dreams about those crunches.