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HR 8 and HR 1446

Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,275 ******


These two are reboots of the same from earlier sessions. They're back in the fray with the NRA's baby: background checks. And with a gun control friendly POTUS and cabinet these may see some movement if we don't take action. GOA has provided a nice link for you to send letters to your congress critters: https://gunownersaction.org/stophr8andhr1446/


Please contact your representative whether via the above link or other means, or both.

Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain

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    pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭

    [quote]Please contact your representative whether via the above link or other means, or both.[/quote]

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    Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,275 ******
    edited March 2021

    Here's a statement from Colion Noir (C&P):

    The Idiocracy of the "Charleston Loophole" Bill, Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2021 HR 1446

    On March 2, 2021, House Majority Whip James E. Clyburn introduced what he's calling the "Enhanced Background Checks Act" to close what he and the anti-gun Lobby call the "Charleston Loophole" HR 1446.

    Instead of having to wait 3 business days if you get a delay, you'll have to wait 10 business days before you can request an "escalated" review.

    The FBI seemingly has another 10 business days, and after those 10 business days, if the FBI can't figure out what they need to figure out, you automatically get to buy the gun.

    James Clyburn says, "had the FBI Background check been complete, the perpetrator of the Emanuel Massacre would have been barred from purchasing a firearm."

    They're calling the 3 business days "The Charleston Loophole" because the Charleston shooter was able to buy the gun because the FBI didn't finish their investigation in the required three days.

    So now they want to give the FBI 20 business days to finish their investigation before the automatic proceed. Even though this enhanced background check act does the same thing as the original law, just with a different waiting period, it's somehow not also a "loophole"?

    The first law wasn't a loophole. It was a very deliberate safety measure to prevent the Federal Government from arbitrarily denying people their 2nd Amendment rights by simply not completing background checks in a timely manner.

    Without it, the FBI can sit on your background check as long as they want to. So now they're trying to inch their way towards the FBI having the ability to do just that.

    It's called an instant background check, not the "whenever the FBI feels like finishing their investigation" background check.

    He was able to buy the gun because the Government failed, which it does a lot. I refuse to give up any of my 2A rights because it would require me to depend on the Government to keep me safe when they can't even call the right police department or put CCW down the correct information on a document. Now they're trying to use their incompetence to justify infringing on your rights.

    It gets worse. The Charleston Murderer tried to buy his gun on April 11, 2015, but he didn't do what he did until June 17, 2015.

    That's over two months that the FBI had to conduct their investigation. Over 60 days. Even if they had the 20 business days this bill wants to require, the Charleston shooting would have still happened.

    They are using a tragedy to justify passing a law that wouldn't have stopped that tragedy, and they do this all the time. They use any and every tragedy to implement more Government and more restrictions, getting people killed!

    Carol Bowne, was a New Jersey woman whose ex-boyfriend murdered her after waiting more than forty days to get approved for a firearm permit that would allow her to buy a gun.

    The only reason she was trying to buy a gun was because she was scared her ex-boyfriend would try to kill her. The only reason she didn't have her permit to buy a gun is because the New Jersey government is notorious for taking their sweet little time approving permits.

    This law is yet another example of how they try to take inch by inch and hoping that when they come around again to take another inch, you've forgotten about the last time they took an inch.

    Call and write your representatives in congress. They are going to vote on this in the House of Representatives next week. It'll likely pass the house, but it has a chance to be stopped in the senate because of the filibuster rule, but you have to hold these senators' feet to the fire.

    ESPECIALLY the Republican Senators because all republican senators aren't strong 2A supporters. Some are fair-weather 2A supporters, and if they think they can get away with voting for a gun control bill that "Seems Harmless," they will.

    SO WRITE AND CALL YOUR SENATORS and tell them to dead this bill in the water! I'll post a link to find the information to write and call your representative.

    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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    Grunt2Grunt2 Member Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭

    Good read!!!

    Retired LEO
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2021

    James Clyburn one of the most racist person alive.

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    Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,275 ******

    Yesterday. Take note.


    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,476 ✭✭✭✭

    The Charleston Loophole only exists in the empty minds of the willfully ignorant.


    Roof was arrested for misdemeanor drug possession. Apparently he had not yet been formally charged.

    He could legally purchase the gun, but the background check was delayed because the arrest was wrongly listed as a felony drug charge, not a misdemeanor.

    The law worked as it should. This new restriction would not have changed anything.

    This new law is part of the net being woven to make firearm purchases more difficult for good and decent people because these power-mad big government types know that good and decent people will resist their end game.

    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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