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Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭

Brenneke has a new type of sabot slug. Its called the TOPAS and it sounds like its pretty good. If I can find some I will get a few boxes and try them out.


Anyone here use them?



RLTW

Comments

  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,697 ✭✭✭✭

    Do not understand the concept of a rifled slug in a sabot.

    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭

    I am not sure either.

    Maybe it is so it can be shot out of a riffled barrel or a smooth-bore, but then the rifled slug would no do much in the smooth-bore.


    I will say Brenneke make a heck of a slug so they must have figured it out.

    RLTW

  • BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,674 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2021

    Designed to be shot in a smooth bore barrel and the rifle vanes theoretically impart a spin from the air resistance as they fly and the sabot has dropped away. Kind of like when a kid holds a pinwheel out a moving car window. Just remember rifled slugs in a smooth bore and smooth slugs in a rifled barrel. Bob

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited March 2021

    Maybe they've seen it begin spinning when the sabot drops off?? I am dubious.

    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,697 ✭✭✭✭

    Doubtful that with the shockwave created by the nose of the slug, sufficient air would hit the vanes to cause rotation, Bobjudy. There would be a little, possibly, but achieving a spin rate due to the effects of the air even approaching the spin rate from a rifled barrel is, frankly, impossible.

    If the intent is to have people believe you can impart a stabilizing rotation with the 'rifling' on the slugs, I think it is only to have people believe it. I do not see how any significant rotational velocity can be achieved in the ranges a shotgun slug would be used.

    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭

    Hard to find a review. Seems they can be fired from smooth or rifled bores. My go to for years has been Remington copper solids for rifled bores. The Federal Tru-ball has performed really well out of the smooth bores I've tried them in.

  • BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,674 ✭✭✭✭

    Yup, that is why I said "theoretically". They have been putting vanes on smooth bore slugs for 100 years. The consumer kind of expects it.

    I think this was designed as a hybrid lower cost universal slug to be fired in any kind of shotgun barrel. Heavier and slower than a lot of saboted slugs but the sabot should prevent leading in a rifled barrel. Back when I was selling guns I had several customers spend extra on a rifled barrel and then insist on shooting the cheapest rifled slugs on the market. Didn't take many shots to scrub off enough lead in the rifling to ruin any thoughts of accuracy. At that point it is a real pain to remove all that lead fowling. One was using a rifled choke and tried to tell me the choke was defective because he shot out all the rifling. I scraped a curl of lead out of it with my knife and pointed him in the direction of the gun cleaning supplies. Bob

  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭

    I have always liked Brenneke slugs, Their KO slug has been my goto slug for years.

    RLTW

  • buddybbuddyb Member Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭✭

    We used Brennekes on deer years ago.Never saw one get up after a well placed Brenneke.

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