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Speculation on reparations.

SoreShoulderSoreShoulder Member Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭
edited March 2022 in Politics

Obviously, the case for reparations rests partially on the wrong committed to enslaved persons.

However, it is also claimed that this country profited heavily from slavery and is partially built upon the profits of slavery, which would mean we owed more.

The amount of net profit might have been quite low because the planters might have had a hard time borrowing money to plant every year because of high interest and bad credit.

Their credit rating must have been low because slavery was being banned all over the world and banks saw there was a high chance any day now, they could lose their ability to make the money back by using free labor.


  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,258 ✭✭✭✭

    IMO we are owed reparations. I wake up every morning and thank God I was born here, but then I have seen the real bad places in this mean old world and most of them were in Africa. If they had any sense they would kiss the ground and praise God their ancestors were enslaved.

    BTW My ancestors were debtors and brought over as indentured servants with Oglethorpe in 1730, they were "given" to the Cherokee Indians in GA and were indentured for 5 years. Some got out early by joining the militia and fighting the Spanish.


  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,392 ✭✭✭✭

    There were many Company Towns in the coal belt where one was paid in scrip that just covered what it took to survive.

    If one links reparations to value of labor, does one have to factor in the costs of room and board?

    Just curious.


    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 24,081 ✭✭✭✭

    My FIL and many of my own family lived in " coal towns " paid in script or you could get cash but it was just a very low % of what the company money you would receive . then the company stores charged more than the town stores also just a continuing cycle

    my departed MIL told me stories of her and others going to the company store to get food or what ever the store clerk would call the mine and see how much "credit " the fellow had made for the day before giving out any thing

    get hurt and laid up very long you were gone and some one else would be taking over your company owned shack you no longer were making money for the company

    my departed FIL worked double shifts many times trying to feed the family and I know many more did the same go in before daylight and home after dark and never see the daylight for weeks on end

    it was truly just one notch above slavery in may ways you were owned by the company ( like the old song I owe my soul to the company store )

  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,392 ✭✭✭✭

    You are probably correct on this one, SS. All the wealthy slaves bribed their way north, but the evil northerners took every last penny and left them destitute upon arrival. Many parallels with the traffic across our current southern border.

    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 24,081 ✭✭✭✭

    I am self identifying as a black and a slave descendent , just send my check asap

    if every one else can decide what gender race or combination they are so can I

    if its good for some then all can be counted in

  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭✭

    I am white in color but i must be black, I love fried chicken and water mellon. Got a gap between my two front teeth if that means anything.

    My wife's great great grand mother was full Cherokee Indian. My son and his girl friend were looking at family pictures, his G G G grandmother turns out is his girl friend's G G G grandmother. Thought she was going to pass out.

    FYI I like people of all colors and walks of life but some of the things they say and do riles me up to the fullest.

  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2021

    Oops, all thumbs

  • keithbeachflkeithbeachfl Member Posts: 6

    I changed my stance on reparations once i filled out a form 4 today at my local gun shop...

    They asked what race to I IDENTIFY with - I checked them all as i identify with all of them...

    I am IN LINE for Reparations!

    wtf? can those reparation people be serious ??? and why would any adult or political party even tolerate such stupidity... ahh votes and divisiveness..

  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭✭

    Keith, they are serious as all get out.

  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 25,358 ******

    I don’t entertain suppositions. Life is vexing enough as it is.

  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,392 ✭✭✭✭

    Throughout the Americas, slaves were employed in their off hours for money. Many earned enough to buy their freedom. While this was easier in areas with a majority minority free population, with a quarter million free blacks living in the south during the lead up to war, this also occurred in the Southern States of the US. Those that did not buy their freedom used the cash to supplement their diets and living conditions, while no doubt many were saving the money. Wealthy has always been a relative term, and there were no doubt many owners who prohibited the accumulation of money by their slaves.

    We are conditioned today to believe that there was no such thing as a good person who owned slaves. There were good people who owned slaves and treated them well.

    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 24,081 ✭✭✭✭

    that's interesting about your GGG grandmother

    I will guess most all Americans have a sorted mixed back ground if they have been in country for a couple hundred years ( or less ) population was a lot less and well reginal mates were a bit more scarce as no one traveled much

    My great grand mother was Cherokee on moms side . no details as far as names but was just passed on word of mouth thru the family . my moms side of the family all looked the part . a lot of my cousins could still pull it off black hair a few shades darker than most. as for me and my brothers and sisters having blond hair ( well gray now ) and blue eyes and some what fair skin no way I could pass , my dads side of the family donated most all of it .

  • mohawk600mohawk600 Member Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭✭

    Afrikans made slaves of each other. American Injuns made slaves of other tribes and white folks. Egyptians enslaved the jews. There is a history of slavery on just about every continent.......time to get over it people

  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,459 ✭✭✭✭

    What about the asians that built the railroads?

  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,218 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2022

    Too smart for their own good? They now have have no bell curve allowances on entrance exams.I heard they are too smart now.


  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 25,358 ******

    Wondrous apparitions, provided by magicians...

  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 12,976 ******

    The only reparations I will endorse must come from CHINA. Payable to all of the planet earth!

  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,459 ✭✭✭✭

    Dead in water now a global oil crisis and govts have a reason to raise prices

  • truthfultruthful Member Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭

    Over 650,000 Americans died due to Lincoln's War and freeing the slaves. It would seem that is payment enough. Now, let's talk about reparations for Native Americans who were slaughtered, and relocated as official government policy.

  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 12,976 ******

    I kind of thought the gov't paid the Native Americans back by allowing them to build casino's, control their own law enforcement, open season on fishing and hunting 365 days a year, free healthcare, and basically super citizenship for their members with yearly pay allotments given to all generated from tribe endeavors. 😮

  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,218 ✭✭✭✭

    When they pay off all the national debt and balance the budget than you can start paying reparations by DNA analysis of percentages of certain profiles. Heck by then 75% of the population could get funds under The NWO edicts of equity for so called minorities enslaved by their own species.


  • fatcat458fatcat458 Member Posts: 374 ✭✭✭

    Truth IS 70% of a Plantations' wealth was its ''NEGROES''. A past grgr grandfather of mine in 1823 got a tax bill from Horry County for $5.33--Property tax on ''5 NEGROES'' and 1100 acres of land plus lmprovements. $3.75 for the ''NEGROES" @ $.75 each. $1.33 tax on 1100 acres of land and improvements. Land was taxed @ 1/10 of one cent per acre. For tax purposes the value of one Negroe was the same as 750 acres of land. From a dollars&cents point of view it seems very unlikely PROPERTY OWNED Negroes were abused. lf they were problems they were simply TRADED, BOUGHT, SOLD.

    Kinda like team players are bought, sold, traded TODAY in PRO SPORTS🤑

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