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Indonesian Sub Declared Sunk
Rocky Raab
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After finding debris identified as coming from their missing submarine, the Indonesian Navy today declared the sub sunk with no chance of survivors. They will continue to search for whatever remains of the German-made submarine, which had been in service with the Indonesian Navy since 1981, to determine what happened to cause the loss, if possible. The sub, with a crew of 53, was on torpedo trials and about to submerge when it was last heard from on Thursday.
I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
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Heck of a way to die I would think. RIP sailors of the deep waters.
I summarized from a news report, and can't vouch for its accuracy. With the state of "journalism" today, accuracy is nil.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/indonesia-submarine-declared-sunk-no-hope-of-survivors
The relevant paragraph:
The German-built diesel-powered KRI Nanggala 402 had been in service in Indonesia since 1981 and was carrying 49 crew members and three gunners as well as its commander, the Indonesian Defense Ministry said.
I think it was up graded or re-worked in S Korea.
That would be a bad way to go IMO.
RIP Sailors.
Both reports may be correct, too. Complete refit of an old boat would cover it.
I've been aboard three classes of subs as a visitor, but am glad I made airplanes my choice of service. What goes up always comes down, but what goes down does not always come up.
This article indicates it was refitted in S.Korea in 2012;
Somewhere I saw that they had also just taken delivery of a new sub from S.Korea this year. It may be the so-called news people are getting these two things mixed together. There are a million ways to die but this certainly wouldn't be near the top of the list of choices for me. Bob
Both reports may be true. It may have been an old sub that just had a complete refit. Regardless, something broke or malfunctioned, and likely led to an unrecoverable dive. They would have had a terrifying few minutes, but the end would have been instantaneous when it came.
If you think about it, a plane and a sub can both have a terrifying long dive, with an instant death at the bottom. But for pilots, it would be hard to get killed by the propellers of search aircraft. (That's a truly horrific story you told, FCD.)
I have to give credit to all sub-mariners no matter what their nationality is. I grew up watching "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" and in my younger years visualized nice windows where you could see all of that aquatic life. Boy! Was that a fantasy!
May all those lost crewmen RIP
Would be horrible knowing you were running out of air.
They never had a chance to run out of air. When they got down to crush depth in their uncontrolled dive, the sub imploded in a fraction of a second. They literally never felt a thing as water hit them from all sides at several thousands of psi.
Even they can't hold their breath very long. Don
When I took the ASVAB back in 1986 with the Navy.........I had pretty high scores and the Navy recruiter REALLY wanted to put me in the nuke sub program. I decided I that I needed to explore my options next door and became a medical laboratory technician with the Army. Being in a hospital lab just made more sense to me than working on a sub reactor.......boy, I really made that Navy recruiter angry.
Hey Hoang, whats this lever do?
Cracks it open because it's Indonesian?
I got nervous just watching 'Das Boot', no way would I ever want to serve on a sub.
Went on one in Charleston ..kept bumping my head.
I took the tour of the submarine USS Drum in Mobile. I am 6-3. I was on that boat for sixty seconds and I wanted off. Claustropohobic to me. I couldn't stand to do submarine duty.
They found the wreckage today. As anticipated, it is broken into three main and many smaller pieces in 2,790 feet of water, indicating it imploded below its crush depth.
The company I work for has been hiring senior enlisted and officer ex Navy nuke sub guys.So far the are all super smart,great work ethic and people skills.After being around all those smart people,I know now why the Navy saw fit to send me to the SeaBees.
The biggest industry in Indonesia is commercial fishing. They legally have a 200 NM Exclusive Economic Zone, but the Chicoms don't respect that. A sub or 2 is a reasonable way to keep the Chicoms away. Unfortunately, they don't have the resources to maintain 40 year old diesel/electric subs, & crew training may fall short of US Navy standards.
I have a lady friend who enlisted in the USN when she was young. She was assigned to sub maintenance, & was treated very well. At 5'1", she was well suited to crawl in the compartment at the front of subs where the sonar antennas are mounted.
Neal