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The longevity of the engine is why, if you can afford to trade it in after a couple of years, it's no problem. I have a loud clunky diesel with no class, but like the turtle and with the hare it will outlast any gas turbo engine. Diesels are made for high pressures, small gas engines not so much. Too many RPMs.
well yea, MOST diesel engines will outlast most gas engines. But the post wasnt asking about diesel engines. I mean......a Peterbuilt road tractor will out haul ANY F350, but thats neither here nor there.
Those 3.5 turbos have been around for some time. Some have over 200,000 miles on em. So they are rock solid. Will a diesel outlast it? most likely but again...apples and oranges.
I agree with you Ricci. Current vehicle is a 2013 LR4 with the Ford 5 liter V-8 and 6 speed tranny. Tested it against a 2016 with the V-6 and 8 speed tranny, and the 8 cylinder outperformed the 6 everywhere, even though they have about the same HP rating.
Higher RPM in the 6, constant shifting as you change speeds or grades, even minor ones - no thank you.
A true hybrid, however, would be a different cat altogether. If the V-6 is just a battery charger, all of the downside of the mechanical drive train go away.
This is not an electric drive vehicle, rather a shotgun wedding between an undersized powerplant, 10 speed transmission and a 47 HP electric motor.
I would pass, at least until the reliability of the transmission is established. That extra power feeding the input shaft of a 10 speed transmission would make me nervous. A motor boost to the transmission output shaft would be an interesting option, however.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
Ah, I see. So the F-150 is not a real hybrid at all but a sort of kludged-together electric-assisted regular truck. In other words, the half-assed worst of either option.
I stand corrected. My description was for an actual hybrid.
Read the above rebuttal about it running on a onboard generator with that fabulous twin turbo engine from Ford. It's another stupid idea from Ford.
You want to run a commercial generator on a construction site? Go buy a portable diesel generator, not a Ford truck with a turbo. The 5.0 v-8 is the only engine I would buy if you had to have the convenience of such a set up.
OK. My POINT is that the 3.5 Turbo V6 is a very capable and PROVEN motor. I agree, if you want a generator....buy a generator. BUT you keep saying the 3. 5 wont hold up. It absolutely WILL hold up to everyday use. Now, again, that HYBRID is different and you might be concerned about the elec motor in the tranny, or the battery pack. BUT you will NOT have to worry about the motor or the turbos. They have proven to be powerful AND last for several hundred thousand miles. I agree that F150 hybrid is a gimmick, but it has a GREAT motor :)
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The longevity of the engine is why, if you can afford to trade it in after a couple of years, it's no problem. I have a loud clunky diesel with no class, but like the turtle and with the hare it will outlast any gas turbo engine. Diesels are made for high pressures, small gas engines not so much. Too many RPMs.
serf
well yea, MOST diesel engines will outlast most gas engines. But the post wasnt asking about diesel engines. I mean......a Peterbuilt road tractor will out haul ANY F350, but thats neither here nor there.
Those 3.5 turbos have been around for some time. Some have over 200,000 miles on em. So they are rock solid. Will a diesel outlast it? most likely but again...apples and oranges.
I agree with you Ricci. Current vehicle is a 2013 LR4 with the Ford 5 liter V-8 and 6 speed tranny. Tested it against a 2016 with the V-6 and 8 speed tranny, and the 8 cylinder outperformed the 6 everywhere, even though they have about the same HP rating.
Higher RPM in the 6, constant shifting as you change speeds or grades, even minor ones - no thank you.
A true hybrid, however, would be a different cat altogether. If the V-6 is just a battery charger, all of the downside of the mechanical drive train go away.
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This is not an electric drive vehicle, rather a shotgun wedding between an undersized powerplant, 10 speed transmission and a 47 HP electric motor.
I would pass, at least until the reliability of the transmission is established. That extra power feeding the input shaft of a 10 speed transmission would make me nervous. A motor boost to the transmission output shaft would be an interesting option, however.
Brad Steele
Ah, I see. So the F-150 is not a real hybrid at all but a sort of kludged-together electric-assisted regular truck. In other words, the half-assed worst of either option.
I stand corrected. My description was for an actual hybrid.
(And I do not use Google.)
Read the above rebuttal about it running on a onboard generator with that fabulous twin turbo engine from Ford. It's another stupid idea from Ford.
You want to run a commercial generator on a construction site? Go buy a portable diesel generator, not a Ford truck with a turbo. The 5.0 v-8 is the only engine I would buy if you had to have the convenience of such a set up.
serf
OK. My POINT is that the 3.5 Turbo V6 is a very capable and PROVEN motor. I agree, if you want a generator....buy a generator. BUT you keep saying the 3. 5 wont hold up. It absolutely WILL hold up to everyday use. Now, again, that HYBRID is different and you might be concerned about the elec motor in the tranny, or the battery pack. BUT you will NOT have to worry about the motor or the turbos. They have proven to be powerful AND last for several hundred thousand miles. I agree that F150 hybrid is a gimmick, but it has a GREAT motor :)