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Shotgun as a pistol

love2shootlove2shoot Member Posts: 576 ✭✭✭

My neighbor is telling me you can saw off a shotgun, put a pistol grip on it to make it a legal pistol. I kept quiet because I didnt know but I know a group of guys that do know. Is he going to jail?

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  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,397 ✭✭✭✭

    only if caught with it........

  • dunbarboyzdunbarboyz Member Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭✭

    I know a person that did exactly that and took it to the police station to register it. He was sent home without his gun and was very lucky.

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******

    Ummmm.

    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • mohawk600mohawk600 Member Posts: 5,526 ✭✭✭✭
  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭

    The result will become a firearm made from a shotgun. It won't be a sawed off (short barrel) shotgun because it has no butt stock. This is a $200 NAF tax on a Form 1 with fingerprints and photos. Otherwise it's ten years in the slam, and a $10K fine.

    dunbarboyz  friend was lucky to walk out of his PD a free man.

  • mmppresmmppres Member Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭✭

    You can buy a new Mossberg shockwave as a registered other weapon an its small enough.

  • waltermoewaltermoe Member Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭✭

    Why would you want a shotgun with only a 6 inch barrel, and only able to hold it with only one hand. It would have to be a single shot, that in it self would be deterrent as to using it for defense, maybe a snake gun.

  • Toolman286Toolman286 Member Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭

    At a gun amnesty buy-back, anonymous people were hacksawing barrels in the parking lot to get an extra $50. Politicos were ok with this as it raised their statistics.

  • roswellnativeroswellnative Member Posts: 10,158 ✭✭✭✭

    If the barrel is over 18 then you can remove the stock and place a pistol grip ... that’s about all I got

    Although always described as a cowboy, Roswellnative generally acts as a righter of wrongs or bodyguard of some sort, where he excels thanks to his resourcefulness and incredible gun prowesses.
  • mmppresmmppres Member Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭✭

    But remember a 18" barrel is ok but over all lenght must be 26" I think

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******

    That's what got Randy Weaver in trouble... allegedly.

    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • sxsnufsxsnuf Member Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭✭

    Actually, that's what gave Janet Reno's Jack booted thugs an excuse to execute Weaver's family members.

    Arrivederci gigi
  • chmechme Member Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭✭

    Mark Christian nailed it, Cut barrels to less than 18", remove shoulder stock, you have MANUFACTURED an NFA weapon. If you fail to touch second base with the ATF first, you are eligible for 10, 10 and a new roomie. Meet Slasher- he says your name is now Nancy.

    The Shockwave is not an Any Other Weapon- it is an "other" Not a shotgun, as it has never had a shoulder stock, not a handgun since it is over 26 inches in length.

    A caplock muzzle loader like the Diablo is not a firearm- it is an ANTIQUE firearm- and the National Firearms Act does not apply. since it uses loose powder and shot (no cartridge). The Serbu Shorty is an Any Other Weapon, requires ATF registration, since it is made on a virgin receiver, is less than 26", no stock.

    This is an area that if you do not deal with it a lot, can get you into deep kimchi REAL fast.

  • chollagardenschollagardens Member Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭

    ove2shoot posted;

    My neighbor is telling me you can saw off a shotgun, put a pistol grip on it to make it a legal pistol. I kept quiet because I didnt know but I know a group of guys that do know. Is he going to jail?


    No, he is not going to jail. Just the people he convinces to make a "legal pistol". He will probably get a promotion for his brilliant undercover work.

  • asopasop Member Posts: 8,977 ✭✭✭✭

    Didn't they make a "Snake Charmer" that was .410 in pistol design?

  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,601 ✭✭✭✭

    I had a single shot Rexio 45 Colt/.410 for a while. Many revolvers available if .410 will work for him.

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  • chmechme Member Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭✭

    .410 Snake Charmer was just a hair over 18 inch barrel, had a thumbhole buttstock. Classed as shotgun, not handgun.


  • buddybbuddyb Member Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭✭

    When I came home from the Navy in the early 70s a couple of my high school buddies had a sawed off Savage double barrel.They wanted me to keep it for them but I knew enough to decline to even touch it.They were caught for robbing a few banks and had to go away for a while.Where ever they went must have worked because 2 out of 3 of them were model citizens after that and retired from state jobs and were never in anymore trouble.I lost contact with the third but I hope things worked out for him.

  • love2shootlove2shoot Member Posts: 576 ✭✭✭

    A state that hires felons?

  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭

    That does surprise me. I think I remember that the democrat party does actively recruit felons for certain key positions.

  • chmechme Member Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭✭

    Well, as one prison inmate said to the other "The food was better when YOU were Governor....."

  • tsavo303tsavo303 Member Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭

    Not legal. Shotgun can’t be a pistol. It can be an “other” without the overall length or bbl length requirements, but cannot have previously been transferred as a shotgun

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