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How much of an outcast, or just shunned as an individual are you if you move to another State??

toad67toad67 Member Posts: 11,450 ✭✭✭✭
edited April 22 in General Discussion

Looking like my time in Oregon is coming too an end. My 55 years of welcome here has come too a close, due to the influx of liberals from other States, and the inability of the local morons to elect people who still believe in good, solid conservative values.

How welcoming are people of other states, from others moving in from another state? Have heard stories of new people being shunned by the locals. Wherever I go, I expect to follow their rules/laws, and won't plan to force my values/opinions on anyone. If it doesn't look like a good fit for the wife and I, we won't go there.

Thoughts?

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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 22,595 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2021

    Pulling up stakes and moving is a stressful, disconcerting process, even when it is the best choice for you and yours......A well thought out exit plan and the right place to go is the beginning of the blending in process. My bride and I lived in Illinois for the majority of our lives, when I hit the right age where I could retire, we were gone !

    We had some ties already here in MO where we live. That made the process a little easier for us.. Once we settle in, we plugged into a church, found different service organizations to serve in and I joined a shooting club. We slowly met like minded folks and socialized with them... There were times when I felt out of place and like folks were not real sure about me, but found I had enough things in common with a good number of people I met along the way...fishing, shooting, hunting, farming etc..

    So now I have some good friends at church, some great neighbors that I hunt and shoot with often and enough social outlets to feel at home here....It did take some time to be accepted here by some folks and there have been a few that wanted nothing to do with us as we were outsiders but over all our move here has been a great change....

    I hope you and yours are able to land somewhere where you will find happiness and contentment as we have.....

  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,195 ✭✭✭✭

    That depends. I,ve found most folks are friendly enough. Getting work be an issue depending on the available jobs and community size, family ties etc.

  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,195 ✭✭✭✭

    If you go to church that can be a good way to make contacts.

  • Toolman286Toolman286 Member Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭✭

    Like you, other like minded people are moving also. And, they're probably moving to the area you're looking at for the same reasons. So, you will meet people & have friends. Heck, we're a very mobile society.

  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,845 ✭✭✭

    If you go somewhere, change the plates on your vehicles as soon as you can.

    Around here "some" people do not like the invaders with out of states plates.

    Might have something to do with our state being californicated.

    .

  • NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 14,369 ✭✭✭✭

    For the most part everyone here in MT has been fairly welcoming but there is always an undertone of 'don't try to change us'. I've had a couple folks say it straight out. There were two azzhats in a beat up Subaru that tried to intimidate me the day I drove our slide in camper up with the Oregone plates on it. I found them more amusing than dangerous.

    Once folks get to know you and figure out you're not going to be a liberal idiot then they seem to be very accepting.

  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 12,755 ✭✭✭✭

    Just about all of the states and cities people are leaving, have one thing in common: DEMOCRAT control.

    Fully understand their desire to escape these crime, tax, and Marxist sewers: Just dont create the same sewers they fled by voting DEMOCRAT.

  • buddybbuddyb Member Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭✭

    Here in SC,probably 50%+ of the population moved here from somewhere else.The majority of them are financially well off and brought their money with them and are not afraid to spend it which has helped what was pretty much a poor,rural southern state.For the most part they make fun of us and we make fun of them in a good natured way. It has made traffic a nightmare around some of the bigger cities but I dont have to go where the traffic is bad and the young people grew up in it and think nothing of it taking an hour to go 3 miles.

  • Grunt2Grunt2 Member Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭✭
  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 10,734 ******

    Going on for years and years here in Michigan. Without even leaving the state. A person living in the lower peninsula moves north to da UP. You will always be a troll that came from under the bridge of Mackinaw 😲

  • Toolman286Toolman286 Member Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭✭

    Be careful what your T-shirt & bumper stickers say.

  • XXCrossXXCross Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    It's a short move to Eastern Washington and it's still fairly conservative. For gods sake don't even think about the west side of the state !

  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 11,450 ✭✭✭✭

    It's the same way in Oregon, but the problem is that Seattle and Portland run their States.....

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member Posts: 62,897 ✭✭✭✭

    Yep. I'm trying to get out of the Spokane area because Spokane itself is being overrun too.

    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,572 ✭✭✭

    Unfortunately you can run to another State only to have it turn politically in a matter of years. I left California in 2007 and would never move back. Washington was liberal even back then except for the gun laws. Unfortunately that’s changed for the worse now as well. I live on the much more conservative Eastern side but even that is changing by the year as the liberals have found they could sell their $900K cracker box house and come over here to grab a bigger one for $300K. Unfortunately they bring their liberal politics too. We’ve made the decision to retire in 10 years, sell everything and get a trailer & truck, and be full time RVers. If the politics change I can just leave a lot easier.

  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 14,725 ✭✭✭✭

    When I moved from Kalifornia to Idaho 18 years ago I was told to change my plates right away. I did so and was pleasantly surprised on how pleasant a trip to the DMV could be.

    I was into shooting trap and made friends there. After trap riding ATV with the ATV club brought even more friends, especially after they found out I had a machine shop.

    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • asparagustastyasparagustasty Member Posts: 22

    Have you considered New Hampshire? Check it out for yourself, literally some of the least-restrictive gun laws (and also no sales tax or income tax, so more money for the pews). But somehow people just forget about it simply because it's in the Northeast

    From my friends who lived there, they say it's fairly libertarian. As in, you leave me be, I leave you be. They'll be people all across the spectrum, but generally they have a leave each other alone kind of mindset.

  • pulsarncpulsarnc Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭

    Eastern NC , is home to Seymore Johnson Air force base, MCAS Cherry Point ,Fort Bragg ,Camp Legune, and several Coast guard stations . Transplanted Yankees and such are a common place variety here . They are welcome ,provided they don't start trying to tells us how they did things in new York or someplace else and they stay out of our local politics . .

    cry Havoc and let slip  the dogs of war..... 
  • bundybundy Member Posts: 203 ✭✭✭

    Unfortunately here in AZ I think the hand writing is on the wall too for us to become another leftist bastion. We now have a democrat female bisexual senator and in the last election people voted in a democrat anti-gun senator and Joe Biden/ Kamala Harris.

    When I go out shopping so many of the people I see make me think the circus is in town and the freak show performers are out doing their business but they are what passes for normal now.



    “The fact that so many successful politicians are such shameless liars is not only a reflection on them, it is also a reflection on us. When the people want the impossible, only liars can satisfy.”

    ― Thomas Sowell

  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 34,023 ✭✭✭✭

    I moved from Georgia up to Washington state. Newport, right on the Idaho line and I spent a lot of time in Idaho. I began seeing bumper stickers, DON'T CALIFORNICATE IDAHO. I asked the guys what the deal was, they told me that they were sick of California libs and wackos moving in.

    I learned that if a person moved up from California, he needed to get those California plates off as soon as possible. A car with California plates might get a flat tire or a brick through the windshield.

    I didn't have a dog in the fight because they didn't mind an immigrant from Georgia.

  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,195 ✭✭✭✭

    Indiana is not bad compared to many state but I am even tired of it here. I'll have my youngest raised in a few years and am seriously considering South Dakota. I was looking at Idaho but I am getting older and as much as I like the mountains flatter land is looking better by the year.

  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 12,558 ✭✭✭✭

    Just remember that the way you looked at newcomers is how you'll be treated wherever you go. Outsiders are always treated with suspicion - a human trait that goes back to tribal days. And for good reason, mostly.

    There's always an accommodation time, a probationary period if you will, for all newcomers. Smile a lot, try to make a good first impression, and never ever criticize how they do things there. You'll be a "local" in far less time than otherwise.

    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 12,936 ✭✭✭✭

    thats pretty much what i found here. it helped a lot when i hauled in a bunch of guns, decoys, fishing poles and assorted outdoor gear. the only opposition was when i mentioned i had been in the Machinist union where i lived previously. very anti union out here in Missoula.

  • Texas1911DETexas1911DE Member Posts: 434 ✭✭✭

    ...Here in Texas, I think most everyone is accepted unless you have that twangy yankee accent, giving away where you're from...then its usually really hard to fit in...

    ...I had one friend I made here on GB 20 years ago, he lived in upstate New York...talked with him on the phone off the forums, a helluva good guy...best to you MrBruce....another friend off the forum, HeDog in New Mexico, Dale, I hope all is well with you...

  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 34,023 ✭✭✭✭

    I moved up to the wilderness of the North Carolina mountains in 1996 and built a log cabin on top of the mountain. And I found that there was hostility between the locals and "outsiders."


    I studied up on ginseng , which does not grow down in central Georgia, and I learned that I had great land for growing ginseng. I have 48 acres and last I checked, ginseng is going for $1000 a pound! Nearly as good as reefer, and ginseng is legal!

    I started buying ginseng roots and seeds and planted $800 worth of ginseng. I was looking for a big harvest, only thing, you have to wait 20 years to harvest. Which means that today, this month, I would be harvesting about $7K in ginseng, and another $7K next year, and so on. So, one day in 1998 I came home and let the dog out and she began barking, out towards the ginseng crop. I went and looked, I had 100 ginseng plants planted in rows, like corn. And 70 of my plants had just been dug up! I had noticed an old beat up Ford pickup on the road, I called the law and they locked up the ginseng bandits. Local hillbillies, of course.

    A few weeks later I was getting work done on my electric line, I told the guy from French Broad Electric about locking up the ginseng pirates. And he said "We-uns have done been going around picking ginseng any where we wanted, for 100 years. And then you-uns [they don't say y'all they say you-uns] come up here and arrest us for what we have always done, and what our grandfathers have done!"

    I told him "The damn ginseng was planted in rows, 100 feet from my house! Those bandits knew it was ginseng that I had planted." No use, the electric company guy, a local Madison County boy of course, had no pity for me and considered me an "outsider" and a bad guy.

  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 11,450 ✭✭✭✭

    Interesting article, thanks for posting Dano. Luckily though, the area(s) that we're looking at aren't on the list.

  • NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 14,369 ✭✭✭✭

    Where are you lookin' to make your escape, Todd? PM me if you don't want it out in the open.

    I know a pretty good realtor in these parts if you're looking at this area.

  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 11,450 ✭✭✭✭

    South of you, Stevensville, Hamilton area...

  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 12,936 ✭✭✭✭

    thats great Toad, be a Bitterrooter! i'm in Victor. just be prepared for extreme housing shortage, low wage structure if you are needing a job, high cost of living. lucky there is no sales tax. lots of gun shops a great shooting range in Hamilton area. and tons of outdoor sports opportunities. welcoming place for those with conservative values.

  • Grunt2Grunt2 Member Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2021

    Worked a couple of summers as a wildland firefighter at the Bitterroot forest service cabin...Just across from the old store...Good times!!! If you know any of the locals...Ask them to show you the Ice caves (holes)...

    Retired LEO
    Combat Vet VN
    D.A.V Life Member
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 22,595 ✭✭✭✭

    My oldest son is thinking about fleeing the People Republic of Illinois....He checked on the price for a small U-Hall trailer..

    800 Bucks !!!! and a waiting period of a month.....Crazy but a huge demand he was told.

  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,155 ✭✭✭✭

    Find most folks are friendly here in MO. Been doing some work on the new lake house and keep meeting neighbors. Most are retired Military. Have been invited to multiple neighbor's houses. Was talking guns, fishing, hunting, and reloading with a retired Submariner the other day.

    I just tell folks I moved to MO from IL because, I wanted to experience some freedom in my lifetime.

  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 49,292 ✭✭✭✭

    As Wm81 said moving is stressful. Given that no one where you will go except close neighbors will notice you, and IF you are a friendly and outgoing guy, they will take to you pretty quickly.

  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 49,292 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, I can only get on via the phone, trying on the PC just takes me to the auction sign in. I have kind of taken it as a sign.

  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,195 ✭✭✭✭

    He dog, scroll to the bottom and open the forums. A least that's how I do it. The first sign in takes me to the auction side and I open the forums from there.

  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 19,543 ✭✭✭

    First I'd get the "Daaaammmmnnnn, they make Chinese big as you?" and I'll have to correct them "No but they made Japos big like me".

    Good thing I didn't pull my stakes up to move to Oregon only to have it turn to California 15 years later (same goes for Washington State).

  • truthfultruthful Member Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭✭

    Native Colorado folks used to welcome newcomers with open arms. That was when the newbies came here because they liked the state and the way it operated. Now the newcomers are largely from places like Kalifornia and they come here to change Colorado into another Kalifornia. The unfortunate thing is they are being very successful at it. Just look at what we have for a governor.

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